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Simple Twitch Changes to Delay His Powerspike

Sir Rouge··8 votes·853 views

Even with adcs being strong in general, Twitch still seems above most of the rest. What I understood is that he gets his powerspike a bit too early and that his Q is a bit too good.

Proposed changes: Base AD: 55.5 --> 52 Q stealth duration: 10/11/12/13/14 --> 7/8.5/10/11.5/13 R bonus AD: 20/30/40 --> 10/25/45

Base AD nerf goal: I don't think his base AD should be higher than some of the other marksmen early. This should lower his early trades by a bit. R bonus AD changes goal: this should make him spike a bit less from levels 6-11, while keeping his 16-18 about the same. Q stealth duration goal: make him a bit more vulnerable in lane, as well as lowering his mid-game pressure with less stealth duration.

With these changes and the ardent censer changes, I think he would be put in a more reasonable spot. After that, we could see if he's still too strong or not (or even if all of this together was too much).

13 Comments

WoonStruck4 votes

Or just remove his R bonus damage.

He doesn't need it with the massive range it gives him.

3 steroids, 1 kit? Plus stealth and a nuke? Seems a little overloaded.

sketchy11 votes

because assasin

WoonStruck5 votes

Then he doesn't need DPS.

[sg-lulu]

sketchy11 votes

DPS=stacks stacks=burst burst + sneaks = assassin plus like @vanaquish said, nothing but his e does any actual damage (AA granted) with a passive that pretty mush isn't there

Nyarlathοtep2 votes

Im pretty sure he needs that bonus dmg. Unless you want him to be buffed somewhere else. I mean currently his passive deals almost non existent dmg , his q is amplifier, his w applies his passive, leaving only his e dealing dmg, besides his aa ofc. I mean for shit's sake, its not even big that bonus dmg.

Likiung1 votes

I'm assuming you just called twitch e an nuke. LMAO please look at tristana who has 198% ad scaling on a full charged aoe bomb, heavy peel, escapes, and a 100% AS buff and scaling range up to 669 with aoe autos while twitch gets aoe autos and 850 range for 5 seconds XD

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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I'm assuming you just called twitch e an nuke. LMAO please look at tristana who has 198% ad scaling on a full charged aoe bomb, heavy peel, escapes, and a 100% AS buff and scaling range up to 669 with aoe autos while twitch gets aoe autos and 850 range for 5 seconds XD

Trist's AoE autos do 150 magic damage only on kills. Hardly a good comparison

Xenomancers2 votes

His Q duration needs to be cut literally in half.

Imperial Japan1 votes

I say that the proposed changes to Q and R are fine. Although the q changes will screw with my early as I play Twitch Jg, I think these changes would be fair. (Although keeping the lvl 5 stealth duration I think would be better)

Sir Rouge1 votes

Yeah it could scale back to 14s, since the goal is to affect his early and mid and not his late.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

Can we do something about stopping his Q completely if he's taking consistent damage? Early game if you're not on a bully you don't always have the damage to kill him before he stealths, even if he's still in range.

Tyto Mors1 votes

plz no. just no. it was bad enough when you had to wait 6 seconds to stealth if you were taking constant dmg. i wouldnt mind if they re-applied that in a weaker form, like 3 seconds if being hit. you already dont actually become invisibility, so people who can keep up with twitch dont really care about the camouflage.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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plz no. just no. it was bad enough when you had to wait 6 seconds to stealth if you were taking constant dmg. i wouldnt mind if they re-applied that in a weaker form, like 3 seconds if being hit. you already dont actually become invisibility, so people who can keep up with twitch dont really care about the camouflage.

Oh wait I'm thinking of when Twitch had actual invisibility not camouflage ugh.

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