Why do people complain about Vayne?

Elohaven··2 votes·921 views

Edit: [Seeing how people are replying, "BUT WHEN YOU FEED HER, SHE'S OP AND TAKES NO SKILL". Think about that logic before you post for a second and use it as a reason for why Vayne is busted. Of course that occurs. That's literally what happens when you feed any champion in League. That's just common sense as to why you don't feed. Feed a Mundo and see what happens. Feed a Nasus and see what happens.]

She's pretty healthy as a champion to me. Her short range and her skill ceiling makes him unplayable to a vast majority of the community. She also is very easy to shut down due to her low sustainability like all ADCs. I even believe her range is equal to Teemo's and one stun will end her day.

Since she can only target one champion at a time, Riot gave her the ability to be a duelist. She's a ranged duelist who relies on critical chance and lifesteal to survive. 1v1'ing her(if the player is good) is a bad idea - especially if it's in the jungle where walls are just begging to be hit.

She does her job well and has her weaknesses. She has more weaknesses than most ADCs as she's more reliant on player mastery and reactions. She's (I'm using this lightly) adc version of Yasuo in terms of outplay potential.

Jinx and Twitch are much worse than this simply due to their AoE abilities. Twitch shreds teams all at once while Vayne does not. He sacrifices mobility and escapes with also high CD. Jinx has a lot of AoE(ultimate rocket and rockets[basic attacks]) with kiting prowess to keep her alive. I'm pretty sure once a good Jinx player gets a kill, assist, or tower objective - it's hammering time.

Most of the time, people forget teams protect their ADCs as they do a lot of damage or ADCs hide in the backline. This is simply called kiting and this is what people are complaining about Vayne on the boards.

She's a duelist and she's supposed to BE ABLE destroy you one-on-one. If you guys can't attack her at the same time, and just get hit with her silver bolts individually - then it just means you guys were uncoordinated.

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The KnightOwl1 votes

Because your botlane feeds her 10 kills in 10 minutes, then she becomes a broken fucking monster that 3 shots everyone on the map for the rest of the game.

Elohaven2 votes

That's any champion.

The KnightOwl1 votes

meh, good point.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

Because people don't like mobile champions that are hard to hit. Which is, funnily enough, the reason why Yasuo is hated so much as opposed to all his other ludicrous amounts of bullshit.

Elohaven1 votes

I agree and I find Yasuo actually pretty nice to lane against. I love getting a Darius, Annie or Tryndamere to lane against him and laugh at how easy it is to shut him down.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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I agree and I find Yasuo actually pretty nice to lane against. I love getting a Darius, Annie or Tryndamere to lane against him and laugh at how easy it is to shut him down.

Ive been playing Swain into his ass since season 4. Ive reached the point where yasuo's are a joke to me when I lane. They always seem to play as if they are gods gift to league and then get their asses handed to them goign needlessly aggro. it's amusing actually.

its also the reason why people are now crying about Katarina despite her being mostly fine.

khorney1 votes

yes healthy my ass infinite mobility due to tumble a escape and damage bonus and really if u rush attack speed u still deal shyt tons of damage

Elohaven1 votes

Every ADC in a nutshell.

I can even burst you with Teemo like that...

khorney1 votes

uymm no other adc automatically does true damage for starters, 2 only 1 other adc is close to your mobility and thats kal. 3. you have a built in cc with stun who else has that that isnt a ult? ohh wait no one.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

Twitch Twitch's basic attacks each Poison icon poison his target with a Deadly Venom stack, dealing 6 / 12 / 18 / 24 / 30 true damage over 6 seconds, stacking up to 6 times for a maximum 36 / 72 / 108 / 144 / 180 true damage over the duration.

has stealth on his Q , a slow and his ult

ACTIVE: Twitch gains bonus attack damage and 300 bonus attack range for 5 seconds. BONUS AD: 20 / 30 / 40 Additionally, Twitch's basic attacks travel across their full range and skewer every enemy they pass through for the duration, dealing 20% less damage per enemy hit (down to a minimum of 40% damage) These attacks apply on-hit effects to all affected enemies and can Critical strike icon critically strike against each individual target.

http://champion.gg/champion/Twitch has a 53.52% win rate http://champion.gg/champion/Vayne has a 51.58% win rate

khorney1 votes

q is not instant so no that doesnt count and 2 . pretty much no one gets rage blade on twitch which i do not know why so the true dameg part and on hit effect is pointless. rage blade on twitch is op bs, thats where he beats vayne however vayen has stun and twtch does not

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

he dont need rage blade to do true damage

he does true damage from autos....

khorney1 votes

so stacking ur passive in 3 atatcks is bad and doign double damage and ur ult doing double the dameg is bad how?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

hmm ok. let me ask a question WTF are you talking about ? lol

you bring up RAGE BLADE which wasnt part of anything i stated... i just simply showed that twitch has stealth , a slow, true damage and can basically a form of AOE damage in his ult which increases his range and showed that his win % is 2 % higher then vayne...

Elohaven1 votes

Caitlyn, Jinx, Jhin also have CC if you didn't know. Jinx and Caitlyn actually stun you. Twitch has a slow.

Hexs Fortune1 votes

She's pretty healthy as a champion to me. Her short range and her skill ceiling makes him unplayable to a vast majority of the community.

Get her a little bit fed and suddenly anyone can play her

Elohaven1 votes

Lol - that's any champ.

Feed any champion and they'll snowball you.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

you know your gonna get about 200 downvotes cuz you advocate vayne isnt that bad balance wise.... but that is what happens people get butthurt over champs that they lose to and say its unfair instead of learning how to beat the champ or find ways to counter the champ. and im gonna get about 100 more downvotes as well... cuz i simply dont think she is that much of an issue... she is a late game hyper carry . she shreds tanks that is what she is suppose to do... but she can be beat and often is... hence why her win rate is 51% and not 80%

i played a game the other night i was top lane... enemy had a vayne she got fed early. ( bot lane was having a rough game) end of game i went 7-5-24 as maokai did nearly 60k damage to champs.. enemy vayne who got off to an early lead and was fed and won lane .. ended up 12-13-8 and only had 33.5 k damage to champs....

me as a tank nearly double her damage dealt.... out damage my entire team.... and oh yea ... vayne should shit on me right cuz of her true damage scaling off my HP?

hmm i won that game

Elohaven1 votes

I know I'll get downvoted because people just don't know how to play against champions properly. I'm even surprised that Vayne is an issue this meta when games are only 20-30 minutes long. That's not even enough time for her to hit her late-game status but just barely enough for her initial power spike.

Yeah, you're right about tanks. Tanks just demolish Vayne if you just go up to her and CQC. Even if she has her ult up, if you CC her - she's useless.

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

Health scaling true damage

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