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Junglers either need way less jungle xp or jungle monster need to do way more dmg.

Pommel Knight·1/21/2018, 9:14:59 PM·3 votes·890 views

I'm tired of junglers coming mid or top with lvl 3 before I can get lvl 2 or just get it.

They also get the buffs that give them both cc and health regen (red buff), which might be too strong with the regen. Seriously, this has become a game of which jungler ganks first, it's not warding or anything. You cant just stay under your tower when the lane is in the middle for the first 2 waves and you don't have the tools to escape if you don't burn flash and that makes you lose lane again.

Junglers need to lose one or more of the following things:

  1. Healthy clears: They need to lose more hp and mana in clears and not come out with more hp than when they enter early on.

  2. A lot of xp: Sure make it ramp up, but they can't just get so much that they can get lvl 3-4 before solo lanes, that's just unhealthy.

  3. Red buff needs to lose the HP regen or have it heavily nerfed: Red buff might be a big problem here, it heals for a stupid amount (1/3/6% max HP per 5 sec on lvls 1/6/11). Make it flat or something.

  4. Clear speed: Monsters should get more hp and resists so it doesn't take less than 1.5 min for them to clear 5 camps. High elo junglers will do their early jungle clear by 2:30~ and that is when someone will get ganked. Way too fast, and even more ridiculous when they come out with full hp.

I'd like to hear others opinions on this. I believe this along with the tank and adc problem should be addressed. This game is mostly jungle and adc playing and other roles supporting or watching.

Toplaners are tanks or troll. Mid is whatever the fuck you want just clear the wave and cc from time to time. Support is junglers and adcs bitch.

11 Comments

Crystalysk1/21/2018, 9:48:46 PM3 votes

You can still sacrifice a bunch of creeps and stay in range just to get the exp for the 2nd wave (if you do that you won't miss that much gold and lane will push to your side). Level 3 gank is pretty telegraphed, just stay safe for 10-15 seconds. It's like people complaining about Twitch jungle being op while he is actually just a cheese pick that relies everything on his level 2 gank (if he fails it his game turns into hell already).

Dankest Khan1/21/2018, 9:36:53 PM1 votes

It's actually shocking how easy jungling has become for the majority of the champion pool compared to S2/S3. Jungling is way too safe and lucrative but on the other hand if you make the jungle too dangerous it becomes a game of who can invade better. The solution would be to reduce the damage dealt by jungle creeps but increase their HP pool (especially in the first 5 minutes) so clears take longer and aren't inviting invades by Shaco LeeSin Rengar Khazix etc