People think that the E nerf is enough to nerf Riven, You forgot that...

taleofsonata·May 2, 2019·4 votes·878 views

She is a conqueror abuser and spear of shojin abuser. The Q buff will literally either propel her even higher in winrate or stay the same.

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2Charmnot2CharmMay 2, 20194 votes

I didn't know Riven starts the laning phase with Spear of Shojin!

The thigh guyMay 2, 20192 votes

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I didn't know Riven starts the laning phase with Spear of Shojin!

Just because a champion doesn’t start with an item doesn’t me it isn’t a factor.

That’s like saying atmogs wasn’t overpowered because they need 2 items.

Or that rework morde wasn’t op because he needs minions to level up.

Hint hint. Every champion is going to buy items.

2Charmnot2CharmMay 2, 20192 votes

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Just because a champion doesn’t start with an item doesn’t me it isn’t a factor.

It stops being a factor when you're trashing riven in lane like you should be doing because her shield cooldown got nerfed.

Riven needs 3400 GOLD in order to buy item 3161

You have plenty of time to abuse Riven till then and if she somehow manages to reach that point without dying or getting heavily behind in cs/xp then that's a YOU problem.

The thigh guyMay 2, 20191 votes

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It stops being a factor when you're trashing riven in lane like you should be doing because her shield cooldown got nerfed.

Riven needs 3400 GOLD in order to buy

You have plenty of time to abuse Riven till then and if she somehow manages to reach that point without dying or getting heavily behind in cs/xp then that's a YOU problem.

Abuse her when? When her 4 UNCONDITIONAL FUCKING DASHES are down? :/

HethaleanMay 2, 20192 votes

They like riven too much. Nothing will ever change about her.

Literal IRL TreeMay 2, 20192 votes

Wow 1 second off of Q and 4 seconds onto E makes a power swap and not a nerf? Do you people actually play the game? This is why riot doesn't listen to the boards rofl

chipndip1May 2, 20191 votes

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Wow 1 second off of Q and 4 seconds onto E makes a power swap and not a nerf? Do you people actually play the game? This is why riot doesn't listen to the boards rofl

It's not just one second off Q. It scales to 3 seconds off. Also, this buff is a direct buff to her damage over time in drawn out fights, with a minor decrease to her ability to stun people in that process. She MIGHT be a bit weaker, but hardly so, and her advantage state will be even worse with her Q being up more while having no resource bar to worry about.

Literal IRL TreeMay 2, 20191 votes

Ok 3 seconds off q is nice but ask anyone about Riven that isn't ranting and they will say she is WAY too safe in lane and layer in fights because dd and shield. This is a hit to lane phase so you can trade vs her and die in fights. Her damage is not the problem it's how mind numbingly easy it is to just survive this is coming from someone who has 600k Riven and quit when Riven meta swapped from lethality/pen to this bs I'm a tank but full damage Riven

chipndip1May 2, 20191 votes

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Ok 3 seconds off q is nice but ask anyone about Riven that isn't ranting and they will say she is WAY too safe in lane and layer in fights because dd and shield. This is a hit to lane phase so you can trade vs her and die in fights. Her damage is not the problem it's how mind numbingly easy it is to just survive this is coming from someone who has 600k Riven and quit when Riven meta swapped from lethality/pen to this bs I'm a tank but full damage Riven

You trade her shield + dash and in turn get her entire damage rotation up to 3 seconds faster. It's really not that much of a nerf. If she starts winning she can fight and make plays more often and for longer. Where's the downside to that?

She needs a power down, not a power shift.