Possibly needed Xayah nerfs?

Eternal Torment··1 votes·3,124 views

So as everyone knows Xayah and Rakan are out on the PBE servers and several big youtubers have already released some busted builds and/or gameplay Videos and for me from what i have seen so far i Need to bring up certain questions and answer them:

Question 1: Does her Q empowered AA proc with Runaans? Is she able to proc 3 feathers at the same time with every AA? Answer: Unknown, but if she did that would Need to be removed because she would become indefinitly broken due to the fact that pre-6 she can if succesfully rushing the item LITERALLY triple her power spike with a meager 2600 gold purchase

Question 2: Does her E reduce the damage with multiple feathers? Answer: From what has bee displayed so far, no. It would be recommended to do such however because it would cause indefinite amounts of damage, whoever watched vandirils dragon oneshot or redmercy's gameplay clip will know that she can quite literally just R-E for over 1k damage, giving her the burst worthy of 1 1/2 assassins. I would recommend a damage reduction that scales with the feathers amount as follows: 1 feather: 110% damage 3 feathers: 100% damage each 5 feathers: 90% damage each 10 feathers: 85% damage each 15 feathers: 80% damage each 20 feathers and anything more: 75% damage each

Question 3: Does infinity edge multiply the crit scalings for her E? Answer: Unknown but it would definetly be recommended if it does not. If, however, it does, then a slight nerf would be needed to the crit scaling on her E

Question 4: Does her E possess global range? Answer 4: Yes, from vandiril's Video there is a fair room to assume it does. i would nerf that so her feather decay functions similar if not same to azir's soldiers. Make the decay twice as fast if she is 900 Units away or further or if they are undertower. the reason is simple, her Q empowered feathers and her ultimate range outscale any and all adc's in the game, giving her the potential to harrass and snowball from a distance far too save. she also can just lay down some feathers in a wave, retreat (hide in a bush) bait the enemy into pushing or csing and then use her E for a possible snare and initiaty a lethal ambush with an all out which is near perfect even for the stupidiest of noobs.

So as you can see the biggest Problems for Xayah's balances lie within her E and her feathers as a whole, they do too much damage while making her too safe. this adc is kit and playstyle wise quite literally the unholy result you get if lucian, caitlyn and draven made a child. she can snowball, she can waveclear, she can push, harrass, Counter push, Counter snowball. her laning phase is too safe for someone who possesses such an aggressive and high burst kit

I hope you understand my concerns and i hope you agree with my proposal for possible balancings.

15 Comments

ChaddyFantome4 votes

The champ isn't even out yet. Whats more they legit just came out on PBE, the place where things go to be tested for balance. FFS man.

Eternal Torment1 votes

that is why this is merely a suggestive talk. you see my title being a question, not a demand, right? so dont flip out on me just because i analyzed her properly. i don't even ask of you to be on the same page i am i literally only proposed some ideas to balance her a bit because from the footage so far provided by her she is busted as fuck (haven't said that about any champion in over 1 1/2 years)

ChaddyFantome2 votes

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that is why this is merely a suggestive talk. you see my title being a question, not a demand, right? so dont flip out on me just because i analyzed her properly. i don't even ask of you to be on the same page i am i literally only proposed some ideas to balance her a bit because from the footage so far provided by her she is busted as fuck (haven't said that about any champion in over 1 1/2 years)

Its a redundant question... especially when its not even posted on the PBE forum. Also, I didn't "flip out " on anyone, though someone seems to have had their feathers ruffled.

Eternal Torment1 votes

you did actually flip out and are downvoting every single post that doesnt worship xayah. so with my kindest tone i have to call bullshit.

fair suggestion for YOU to first read the context and analyze my sources, see for yourself the footage and why i am here giving Facts and possible courses of actions to put her in a very decent spot. It is exactly because she is out for less than 24h that i am merely suggesting These changes and not demanding them.

PS: do yourself a favor and dont act so biast, i get it that you like xayah but reason over opinion dude.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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you did actually flip out and are downvoting every single post that doesnt worship xayah. so with my kindest tone i have to call bullshit.

I find it funny how you seem to now be tryign to push this angle that i am some sort of apologist increadibly hilarious and petty tbh, ... you know... outside the fact that your post sounds like a child goign "ya-huhhhh is too" Its like Im on tumblr or something,,,, >__>

For the record, I font really care for Xayah at all. I'm a Rakan bro. Nice try tho, sugarpop.

And Yes I downvoted your post. i disagree with it. Why wouldn't I?

fair suggestion for YOU to first read the context and analyze my sources, see for yourself the footage and why i am here giving Facts and possible courses of actions to put her in a very decent spot. It is exactly because she is out for less than 24h that i am merely suggesting These changes and not demanding them.

What source? What facts? You asked a bunch of questions about the champion you don't even have the answer to.

PS: do yourself a favor and dont act so biast, i get it that you like xayah but reason over opinion dude.

PS: Dont use terms and words you dont know the meaning of in an attempt to sound smarter than you are lmao xD

U don't know what bias means <_>

Eternal Torment1 votes

that you assume i ask without answering downright proves you didnt even read what i said and just coutner rant against it assuming it is a rant on my side, i literally stated where i have my source from and even in a question directed it into a fourth wall breaking question.

so you go ahead and smack talk so big while defending your opinion while i simply ask the Players about simple Facts and stats. talking tough is one Thing but if you wanna tilt someone for fun go to the memes and games section, the gameplay section is where people talk numbers not guesses and feels :/

so buh bye

ChaddyFantome2 votes

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that you assume i ask without answering downright proves you didnt even read what i said and just coutner rant against it assuming it is a rant on my side, i literally stated where i have my source from and even in a question directed it into a fourth wall breaking question.

??? Your "sources" aren't even relevant to the "balance concerns you posed. The blanks in your questions are. Calling it a "source" is incredibly fluffy and pointless.

You might wanna learn what a source is btw.

so you go ahead and smack talk so big while defending your opinion

What opinion? What Smack talk?

while i simply ask the Players about simple Facts and stats.

you don't know what facts and stats are. <_>

talking tough is one Thing but if you wanna tilt someone for fun go to the memes and games section, the gameplay section is where people talk numbers not guesses and feels :/ so buh bye

You have bigger issues if you deem this as tilt tier, kiddo. ...I'm beginning t question whether u are even old enough to be playing this game.

And rather ironic of you to be talkign about posts being on the wrong boards given this would need to be on the PBE forum, as i sated earlier.

Eternal Torment1 votes

i told you before to be gone, troll, and you have returned just because your new favourite was thoroughly analyzed and given a needed balancing proposal :)

you call me kiddo but can't take a bye after being shown off as a biast Person.

so ill say it again, just for good measure:

buh bye troll

ChaddyFantome1 votes

https://i.imgflip.com/1h3kcg.jpg

^you in a nutshell. <_>

Kukan Seishin1 votes

Runnands doesn't add more feathers

Eternal Torment1 votes

has there been legitimate footage of someone building runaan's on xayah and showing if it works or not? unless there is we have to assume it does and answer to that by proper measure. if you have any verified source to prove it does not, you are very welcome to share it

Kukan Seishin1 votes

Yes, I have PBE I just did it last night

Eternal Torment1 votes

Aight thats one question down. Thank you for your contribution

ggigotfed1 votes

Here's how to ask for a nerf because riot will not learn.

Is it the most recent champion? Permaban it until a nerf comes in effect.

Shy Pengu1 votes

I don't think she needs a nerf. She has no free escapes, lacks mobility. Her feathers aren't ever a guaranteed hit, they require positioning. If the enemy were to position themselves smartly in laning phase, it wouldn't be a problem.

If she misses the feather callback before mid-late game assuming her lane opponents didn't hyper feed her, she losses substantial damage. Plus she'll probably die for the miss if she has no summoners.

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