Isnt udyr broken?

mc4life·Jun 9, 2019·2 votes·1,206 views

As udyr, onnly thing you need to buy is damage. With your q you can have 1.6 attack speed wihtout buying single item + do like 300dmg every 2-3 aa With your w you cant die even in 2v1 With your e you get 500 movespeed + stun

Soo he is champion who has escape/dmg/attackspeed/healing/shieldning/tankiness/increadibly good chase, just in his kit. Isn't that a bit too much? He can even escape jax with his e, and that is something i alomst never see any champ being able to do without certain build.

More less stronger variant of tahm kench.

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Literal IRL TreeJun 9, 20193 votes

Bad escape good damage and attack speed bad healing decent shielding and without tank items bad tankiness and not good chase in comparison to many champs. Can't get away from a Jax ur on drugs

mc4lifeJun 9, 20192 votes

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Bad escape good damage and attack speed bad healing decent shielding and without tank items bad tankiness and not good chase in comparison to many champs. Can't get away from a Jax ur on drugs

500 movespeed bad escape? bad chase?

Literal IRL TreeJun 10, 20191 votes

He doesn't have 500 movespeed at early ranks thats after he has triforces and multiple points into E and almost every champion has dashes nowadays so yes, bad chase and escape.

IllabetheJun 9, 20193 votes

He's not broken at all. He's categorically countered by skill shot CC, Slows, Better, faster skirmishers like Xin, and anyone who can negate his stun.

He only feels broken when someone level 2 feeds him first blood. Which ...... is about 60-70 champions.

No Gap Closers Melee Range Punishable by any Warden's Mail item. (Entire kit is attacks, and he's not Yi) Generally has no team fight presence once game has developed. (Gets shredded, single target for the most part, can't build tanky enough to take all the hits)

He cannot win vs Jax at all. Jax is a pure counter; As long as Jax casts Counterstrike, Udyr can't even land Stun or Tiger Strike, or proc his heal. He can try to run when Jax Counterstrikes, but Jax's Leap is plenty long enough to catch Udyr.

mc4lifeJun 9, 20192 votes

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He's not broken at all. He's categorically countered by skill shot CC, Slows, Better, faster skirmishers like Xin, and anyone who can negate his stun.

He only feels broken when someone level 2 feeds him first blood. Which ...... is about 60-70 champions.

No Gap Closers Melee Range Punishable by any Warden's Mail item. (Entire kit is attacks, and he's not Yi) Generally has no team fight presence once game has developed. (Gets shredded, single target for the most part, can't build tanky enough to take all the hits)

He cannot win vs Jax at all. Jax is a pure counter; As long as Jax casts Counterstrike, Udyr can't even land Stun or Tiger Strike, or proc his heal. He can try to run when Jax Counterstrikes, but Jax's Leap is plenty long enough to catch Udyr.

Oh right, he will always go in 1v5 soo all u need is to stun him, thanks for help!

mc4lifeJun 9, 20192 votes

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He's not broken at all. He's categorically countered by skill shot CC, Slows, Better, faster skirmishers like Xin, and anyone who can negate his stun.

He only feels broken when someone level 2 feeds him first blood. Which ...... is about 60-70 champions.

No Gap Closers Melee Range Punishable by any Warden's Mail item. (Entire kit is attacks, and he's not Yi) Generally has no team fight presence once game has developed. (Gets shredded, single target for the most part, can't build tanky enough to take all the hits)

He cannot win vs Jax at all. Jax is a pure counter; As long as Jax casts Counterstrike, Udyr can't even land Stun or Tiger Strike, or proc his heal. He can try to run when Jax Counterstrikes, but Jax's Leap is plenty long enough to catch Udyr.

Also noone is fastewr than him, especially not xin, hello, 500 ms? and that for stupidly long duration

IllabetheJun 9, 20191 votes

It's the same speed duration and length as Karma, and just about every other movement speed boost in the game.

My Zyra has 526 Move speed. Nami blows him out of the water.

Also, again.... He's destroyed by SLOWS. Try fighting Ashe or Kog. Both destroy Udyr before he can even reach them, unless he flashes.

ChilleeJun 9, 20192 votes

He isn't too tanky and his chase is only good against immobile champions. His Q gives good attack speed and burn damage, but Udyrs always build ATK SPD no matter what. His W is his sustain and the reason people think he's tanky, early game it can't do too much besides a small heal and a small shield due to the CD. The heal is on the first basic attack after cast and on the third after. His E is only good chase for immobile champs, because it is a mediocre gap closure. In fact, here's a small tip to stop his ganks: Most Udyrs gank top or bot based on where tri-bush is. If it is near your tower, he will try to enter your lane though the tri-bush hallway, so look out behind you more than through the river entrance. This is true for mid lane as well, despite the lack of a tri-bush. Anyways, his R is just small AoE for either jungle clear or to keep his passive up. Very little build full AP Udyr with it.

Hope this helps at all!