Jungle is disaster rn.

mc4life·Nov 20, 2019·4 votes·945 views

With removal of bonus xp from being behaind in level, stealing enemy jg has just too much impact, steal 2 camps at start and enemy jg cant do anything, he can gank once, and after that he clears 4 camps and hes level 3. Camps arent respawned, and enemies are already level 4+. Succesfull ganks dont help too much, but still if your jg is stolen and you dont get kill on gank(enemy flashes etc.) you are behaind and useless for some time. Revert this pls.

Also to add its very hard to get items in this situation cuz of gold reducement as well as xp

8 Comments

blindasleepNov 20, 20193 votes

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With removal of bonus xp from being behaind in level, stealing enemy jg has just too much impact, steal 2 camps at start and enemy jg cant do anything, he can gank once, and after that he clears 4 camps and hes level 3. Camps arent respawned, and enemies are already level 4+. Succesfull ganks dont help too much, but still if your jg is stolen and you dont get kill on gank(enemy flashes etc.) you are behaind and useless for some time. Revert this pls.

Also to add its very hard to get items in this situation cuz of gold reducement as well as xp

If you ever get stuck on support I suggest you dodge, might make you full out homicidal/suicidal.

5050BSNov 20, 20192 votes

This is what we want and was the point of the change.

Laners should not have lvl 2 ganks when they have not even cleared the first wave.

laners should not be BEHIND the jungler in level.

mc4lifeNov 21, 20191 votes

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This is what we want and was the point of the change.

Laners should not have lvl 2 ganks when they have not even cleared the first wave.

laners should not be BEHIND the jungler in level.

You as silver 1 non-jg player cant really tell whats good. That cuz enemy jungler assasinate you and you dont know how to defend is your personal unexpirience. Only one who is fed should be ahead, if noone is fed or anything everyone should be equall, since you cant deny laner from getting enough xp, same should be with jg.

The thigh guyNov 21, 20193 votes

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This is what we want and was the point of the change.

Laners should not have lvl 2 ganks when they have not even cleared the first wave.

laners should not be BEHIND the jungler in level.

And junglers shouldn’t be hitting level fucking 6 at the time laners are level 9

mc4lifeNov 21, 20191 votes

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And junglers shouldn’t be hitting level fucking 6 at the time laners are level 9

Excatly. But appreantly jungleres ganking at lvl2 is uncounterable as good mister said.(btw just play deff and put 1 pink in tribush)

Jungle SenseiNov 21, 20191 votes

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With removal of bonus xp from being behaind in level, stealing enemy jg has just too much impact, steal 2 camps at start and enemy jg cant do anything, he can gank once, and after that he clears 4 camps and hes level 3. Camps arent respawned, and enemies are already level 4+.

Also to add its very hard to get items in this situation cuz of gold reducement as well as xp

NONE OF THIS IS TRUE!

You will always get lvl.3 from one side of your jungle now, so i'm not sure how you/they aren't reaching lvl.3. Even if you steal 2 camps he still gets level 3.

Gold is UP not down, there is just more gold in the jungle now. Thats not even debatable, gold is up by like 12%. So i'm not really sure how you can complain about gold being down when its the exact opposite ?

mc4lifeNov 21, 20191 votes

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NONE OF THIS IS TRUE!

You will always get lvl.3 from one side of your jungle now, so i'm not sure how you/they aren't reaching lvl.3. Even if you steal 2 camps he still gets level 3.

Gold is UP not down, there is just more gold in the jungle now. Thats not even debatable, gold is up by like 12%. So i'm not really sure how you can complain about gold being down when its the exact opposite ?

Gold is up if you start blue buff soo you can kill gromp right away, if u dont, someone steals it.

Of course you will get lvl3 from 1 side of jungle, but if enemy jg took 2 of ur camps since he had time for it on other side, you will be lvl3 for some time. When your camps finally respawn you have already lost a lot of xp and will be behaind in game forever unless you make bunch of succsefull ganks, since you no longer gain bonus xp for being behaind you cant comeback. Thats what im complaining about.

Ambitious MinnowNov 21, 20191 votes

Yeah I was pretty skeptical after last season, but jg felt pretty rewarding today. Even when enemy jg got ahead a bit, having all the objectives impacted the game(like they should).

So far, so good.