Explanation of what's toxic and what's not.

mc4life·8/8/2019, 10:37:59 AM·5 votes·7,272 views

Looking over boards i noticed a lot of players keep getting punished by IFS wihtout knowing why, soo i thought it be nice to clearify things a bit.

Overview of stuff: Insults, Calling out reports, Arguing and ways to help yourself.

  • Insults
  1. Normal insults: "Idiot", "R%%%%%", "Moron(yep)" is all considered toxic and will get you banned if you keep on doing it.

  2. Familly related insults: Calling someone idiot is one thing, but "I fck ur mom", "Ask ur mom", "Ur mom told me". are much worse things to say! This is going to get you chat restrict pretty much after 1-2 games, and also can make IFS skip you the 2-weeks suspensions, and instantly give you permanent ban after 25 games chat restrict.

  3. Skill related insults: "Noob", "Bronze", "L2p", "Boosted", "How much you paid that acc?", "ebay", "go back to iron" is considered very toxic and will get you banned after as far as i know 3 games at start, going down to 1 game after 2-3 punishments.

  4. Golden one: "Kys" can get you banned very very easily beacuse it really provocates players a lot, trying to avoid it by typing "Ky$", typing it in 3 seperated messagse or so, will only make things worse. Avoid this at any costs.

  • Calling out reports: -Many of you probably didin't know this, but "x9", "reported", "[All] Can you please report this guy?" is considered toxic as well. Keep in mind to if your other players in your game think someone should be punished they will report him, you telling them to do so won't change anything expect status on you'r account from -not punished- to -punished-.

  • Arguing even if no toxic words are used is considered toxic and will get you banned, i know to muting them can be really hard, but if you see someone complaining even a bit at start of game, mute them right off, it's much easier to mute someone before you get tilted.

Not just flame is considered toxic, every shape of unusefull, givin up, pointless and tilting behaivor is considered toxic, telling to riot support "if i say someone fck ur m, it doesnt have to mean fck ur mom, it can mean fck ur maths and that kind of stuff you know?" will cause riot not to give a single fck about ur ban appeal, we all know what you meant by that, even if you actually did not mean it(which never happend in history of planet Earth), typing this will get you banned, ANY kind of trying to avoid IFS will result in ban, this is unwanted as well, and IFS is made soo it detects when you attempt to avoid it.

  • How can i help myself?
  1. Best way is to find some friends to play with VIA VOICE CHAT. Atmosphere is much brighter with constant jokes and conversations than without them. If you get tilted about something you can yell out in voice chat and your friend will most likely respond with smth that will make you feel better. Avoid playing alone, if none of your friends are there find something other to take your time while they come. I recommend trying out game "Osu!", i've seen very much ppl playing this and it srsly occupies your attention for a long time, i personally don't play it, but only cuz i have diffrent ways to consume my time, still osu! is very good at doing this. Ofc it doesn't have to to be any games, it can be anything that occupies you'r attention enough.

  2. Listening to music helps some players, and some of them not, still give it a shot ^^

  3. Most of ppl will tell you "hit something to relifef you'r stress" or that kind of stuff. This WILL NOT WORK, you don't want to relief ur stress, you want not to be stressed at all, this will only worsen things up.

That's all from me hope i helped someone, have a nice day ^^

Edit: Forgot to say, being afflicted by chat restriction does NOT let you flame, if you use you message every 4mins to flame more you can get banned while being chat restricted. Note that this won't remove chat restriction, it will wait you after your ban passes.

42 Comments

enshine8/9/2019, 12:24:15 AM3 votes

toxic: inting, trolling, trying to lose

"tock sick": meanwords™

ethereal dream8/8/2019, 10:53:47 AM2 votes

good post op

being toxic is honestly pointless. you win so many more games if you be nice or keep your mouth shut

harassing someone for doing poorly early on will just tilt them to the point of no return

& it feels so good when teammates redeem themselves throughout a game & you guys take the victory from the enemy's cold dead hands

Nergál8/8/2019, 4:15:57 PM2 votes

Honestly the whole automated punishment process is a joke. I get chat restrictions all the time for stuff like this just because the bot isn't smart enough and just catches keywords (this is from my active restriction card), same for my last one, someone said in allchat "Nergal I wish your whole family dies" then in the postgame lobby he said "Please x9 nergal for flame" and because I said "are you serious you wish for my family to die in allchat so even the enemies saw it and now you expect them to report me?" and obviously bot only saw "wish family die" in 1 sentence and punished me. There has been literally only 1 game recently that I was annoying but getting punished just for 1 game that you may tilt is just crazy.

For those who say you can avoid being stressed, just no... I'm not saying you can't but it's not natural. If suddenly someone who is duo decides to troll and doesn't surrender along with his buddy and they decide to fool around and not do anything other than farm or spam their abilities on their own team and just follow them around and do nothing else (I'm not talking about being bad but actually trolling) but even then you can still manage to drag the game for 30min+ even if it's 4v5, these are 30 minutes that you're literally prisoner in the game, muting them doesn't help obviously as the issue isn't flaming, you just have to sit there for 30 minutes where literally 2 people waste 30min of their life just so they mess up 30min of your life and if you decide to close the game as you should then you're the one who can get punished for leaving. It's no different than putting a gun on my head and forcing me to watch my desktop wallpaper for 30min as far as I'm concerned. If you can not get stressed in that situation and just randomly accept that a random kid across the world can torture you for 30minutes then like I said it's not a natural reaction.

RayleighTT8/8/2019, 4:16:12 PM2 votes

replay submited to support ,any kind of threats are against rules... , retaliation , much more words which can get you banned... , giving an exemple of someone who been punished and warning him to stop grief... ,so basically if you threat a troller/griefer to stop , if he obvious troll/grief is against rules , you don't have that power to stop them by making all they clearly do is 100% ban able so you could force them to stop troll/grief your games ,you are considered somehow toxic , is beyound my powers to understand , i got instantly permanent banned after that , i still no know why.

Jerry SeinfeId8/8/2019, 4:57:35 PM2 votes

Insults

y'all know this is just for NA right? in fact i heard pretty much anything goes in korea.

in euw you ain't gonna get banned for the ocasional KYS. just don't be a dumbass who spams it.

anyway plenty of ways to get around the detection. Ppl don't need to stop flaming to stay unbanned, they just gotta learn to flame properly.

Calling out reports:

yeah, and GG EZ is also ALLEGEDLY bannable.

Arguing even if no toxic words are used

this would just be stupid and undetectable to a bot.

ANY kind of trying to avoid IFS will result in ban, this is unwanted as well, and IFS is made soo it detects when you attempt to avoid it.

like i said, there's plenty of ways. ppl who flame with certain variations of a certain racial slur aren't capable of flaming properly.

E4208/8/2019, 10:46:18 AM2 votes

Mate let me tell you one thing, currently I am stalking 4 players and their match history to see if they got instantly banned for KYS (variations), 2 of them are missing (holiday maybe?) and 2 of them are still playing. Cut the crap, support crew is really bias. Saying KYS is an instant ban, but "end your life" isnt. I am just hoarding support tickets to find justice for my own KYS which I used once in my 6-7 years of playing.

Also, according to a support member: "In regards to your concern about calling for reports, those are considered excessive if you ask for reports more than two times in the team chat, and more than once on the "All" chat."

Get your shit together.

Toxic Teeto8/8/2019, 6:19:48 PM1 votes

Teemo

Zorpinka8/8/2019, 11:22:54 PM1 votes

Why is toxic AFKing acceptable and has no punishment that would deter the behavior? I'm trying to figure this out because everytime I come back to Leagues I leave within a couple of days because 90%{Not even a hyperbole) of my games will have an AFK. IF there was any substantial punishment no player would have to go through these stretches of boring AFK games. Seriously, my longest stretch is 14 games with an AFK in 3 days. That's way more unacceptable to me then anything on your toxic list.

GonahtanuGepardi8/8/2019, 10:55:41 AM1 votes

Arguing even if no toxic words are used is considered toxic and will get you banned, i know to muting them can be really hard, but if you see someone complaining even a bit at start of game, mute them right off, it's much easier to mute someone before you get tilted.

Very much depends on what is being said. As an example, if you are arguing about what someone should have done in a situation, it is not toxic. I know the community is full of snowflakes who take it as toxic but it's literally just constructive criticism and by definition, not toxic. Ofc if it is done combined with insults, then it's toxic.

Not just flame is considered toxic, every shape of unusefull, pointless and tilting behaivor is considered toxic

Spamming an emote can be tilting but that's not toxic.

You also missed giving up and being purposefully unhelpful are both extremely toxic.

Most of ppl will tell you "hit something to relifef you'r stress" or that kind of stuff. This WILL NOT WORK, you don't want to relief ur stress, you want not to be stressed at all, this will only worsen things up.

From personal experience, i can tell that it does work. Avoiding stress is pretty much impossible so there has to be a method to relieve it. It's up to each person to find a way best suited for them to do it.

KFCeytron8/16/2019, 2:11:00 AM1 votes
  1. "Family related" is not automatically a higher tier of offense. I don't know where you got that idea.
  2. Most regular PB users already know this stuff.
  3. The rest of the regular PB users are only here because they refuse to know this stuff and are only here because they're unable to log in.
  4. Anyone who isn't a regular PB user is only here to post their own thread, not read other threads. Even if they were amenable to reading other threads, this one disappeared off the "hot" listing within a few days and is unlikely to be seen.