Armor pen/magic pen vs tanks/juggernauts

Bultz··1 votes·479 views

So recently I've been playing a lot of tanky champions, mostly Darius and I kind of felt that on magic pen/armor pen on, cc champions mostly, is just murder. Like i know Darius is supposed to be a juggernaut, but Ekko has become a better tank in my opinion. Almost all champions have cc now and its so lame, but besides that it really just kills tanks/fighters. like you can have up too 1000 ap and just stunning a tank is enough to shatter them since most are close range fighters. Ekko being very mobile and adding a tank to his already strong early game has just become so strong, while slow real tanks are struggling it seems to me, or maybe its just Darius, but still CC and a little armor pen and tank down. What do you guys think, or am i missing some sort of Darius counter to all the cc and pen?

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Dunkrius2g1 votes

Thats the thing with Darius. Once you get cced, you will get melted no matter what. The only way you can survive is to manage to Q three people and have item 3053 but keep in mind that you will be beefy later on. Darius needs to have a lot of tanky stats but he isnt really a tank compared to Garen for example. He has % damage reduction along with free 30 armor and mr with the cost of dealing peanut damage.

With Ekko, he has literally tank items. item 3025 item 3068 item 3065 item 3026 item 3111 item 3075 / item 3143

With Darius, you are forced to get item 3071 for damage and item 3053 to not get bursted but that keeps you from having two actual tank items like item 3068 and item 3025

Thats why you will see Darius build like this item 3071 item 3111 item 3065 item 3742 item 3053 item 3512 / item 3026

If Darius never had to build item 3071 , he would be even harder like item 3025, it provides you with 20% cdr and it will ensure that you never run oom and once youi caught up to someone, it will be tough for that person to run away from you BUT this will make darius even slower than before because you don't have your % movement speed like before, and in order for Riot to compensate that loss, they made his passive physical damage and make it extremely beneficial with item 3071 cuz one stack = 20 ms per second. BUT it will be harder to kill him if you had another item besides BC because BC does not provide you with any defense, but technically, it does provide you with some "def" by giving CDR in order for you to Q more often.

It's just this Season thats crap. Ekko is one of the reason why I'm waiting for Riot to fix up their game. Ekko has everything a tank/assassin would ever want. Shields, permanent slow on passive, dashes, stun, % health damage. If you see any tank top, you will see that they have some form of % damage along with CC or you will see a champion just named CC e.g. Nautilus. That is why the % health along with the metagolem items and Grasp of OP makes them nearly unstoppable.

Mandang01 votes

You can't pen health.

And, yes, before all the "omg Liandry's counters health so hard!", do the math - health is still the better tanking stat.

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