Crazy idea: what if there was a support champion that could cleanse allies?

Ralanr·Nov 2, 2017·8 votes·734 views

And by cleanse, I mean GP Oranges level cleansing.

Was talking with another boards member and this ability had come up, which also reminded me of another ability I thought of called “grit your teeth”.

Grit your teeth: targeted champion is knocked back X units, if the target was an ally, they are cleansed of all debuffs.

The character was one of those eccentric people who slapped you silly if you were in shock, but that beyond the point. The point is, could a support with the ability to force feed GP oranges to allies as a basic ability work? Or could it only work as an ultimate if at all?

Is this something you guys would want to see in a new champion or rework of a Support? Personally if I had to choose a current support for it, I’d choose Soraka to give her more of an identity than a healer.

21 Comments

WráthfulNov 2, 20176 votes

Lulu item 3222

RalanrNov 2, 20173 votes

As a basic ability though and not an item.

Wait does Lulu cleanse people or does she just buff them? I honestly forget half of her kit.

iLBGAMingNov 2, 20171 votes

When does a lulu ever even buy this item or any support for that matter, most supports still buy these items: item 2301 item 2302 item 3107 item 3504 .

Both of these item 3222 item 3174 are kinda forgotten items, that are actually good.

SalronNov 2, 20173 votes

After experiencing Kench in his prime Please no

nm1010Nov 2, 20172 votes

I thought a long time ago they said they tested something like this and it was determined a detriment to the game. It was a response to a thread asking about a supports making allies invisible if I remember right. A rioter talked about a couple of different 'unique' support abilities they tried and ultimately they didn't like the idea of a point and click safety net. Instead they like to create windows of safety like Braum having his shield up and being in front of you to eat cc or Morgana shield being able to be broken.

And then they released Tahm which is basically the opposite of what they said they liked (point and click cleanses). I guess he isn't a full cleanse like GP but you get the idea :P

Kahl Drogo98Nov 2, 20171 votes

I mean technically isn't it basically the same? insofar as they both don't fix ignite, and they both stop cc on the target

nm1010Nov 2, 20171 votes

Only extreme cases make a difference like a wither target clicks out early or Tahm dies (kicking them out) and they will still have a slow on them I believe.

DeadUnbornNov 3, 20172 votes

The thing with tahm is that they made his ult very underwhelming in order for his W to be so powerful. Moroever Tham sacrifices his primary threat if he wants to save an ally, and the ally is CC'd by Tahm until it is spat out of him. Therefore although tham's w is a point and click safe fail, it has a lot of constrains and tradeoffs around it

WráthfulNov 2, 20171 votes

i tried to make a joke, but i miserably failed :/

RalanrNov 2, 20171 votes

Yes my own ignorance often makes jokes fall flat.

PennsNov 2, 20171 votes

Seems pretty annoying, also its kind of TahmKench W

RalanrNov 2, 20172 votes

Him...forgot that his W basically does that.

StairCasexdNov 2, 20171 votes

I don't think it would be healthy unless the ability was on a decently High cooldown. Or else the champ would just make most CC useless. I can imagine playing a mage, stunning the adc only for some CC blocker Janna to stop it every time.

IcyPepperNov 2, 20171 votes

Personally if I had to choose a current support for it, I’d choose Soraka to give her more of an identity than a healer.

She would have to lose her silence/root hands-down for that to work. A cleanse would give her way too much power, as cc is an intended weakness for her laning phase.

Colgate GatorNov 2, 20171 votes

If it was a normal ability and not gated by an item, it'd be a tad too powerful, but something like "transfering the CC to yourself" could probably work so there's a cost for such a powerful ability.

iLBGAMingNov 2, 20171 votes

I don't really understand why a cleansing ability is considered strong, both Rengar and Gangplank have it and no one seems to care. In my point of view that would be a really good champion idea, that would be really help allies to survive CC chains.

RalanrNov 2, 20173 votes

Actually Rengar’s cleanse was a big complaint in the assassin rework.

Alex h8721Nov 2, 20171 votes

Kalista ult. Lol, I just thought about how ridiculous and hilarious a One for all kallista team would be.

That said, I do like the idea but it would probably have to take up a lot of the kit's power budget, plus the real issue is that it would become pick ban in very high elo/competitve because of how effective CC chaining is in coordinated play.

deadlychuckNov 2, 20171 votes

Another idea, what if grounded also prevented enemy knock-ups?

WráthfulNov 3, 20171 votes

To be fair this would be pretty busted for a basic ability clense on a 10-20 sec is too op or it should be an ultimate ability which will make the champ pretty weak or if it's aoe but still ultimate on 90/70/50 sec would be interesting.