vayne is still unstoppable every time i play against her

Hahahahyena·Aug 4, 2016·5 votes·1,119 views

vayne still needs nerf to make her have some ACTUAL counter play.

Cant build against her because of her %health true damage Cant focus her because her team will pub stomp you and even then she is impossible to even try to get near Cant ignore her because she will obliterate anyone that tries to ignore her she is just unstoppable at around 20 mins when she has a BORTK and some other AS item

riot needs to actually do something about her but they probably wont cause their balance team is probably thinking about ways to buff zed now you all must be thinking about how many counters she has but let me put it in clear words Her counters are for lane only, and even then she can just side farm wherever need be people say draven is good against her.... only in lane then he gets one shot by vayne's team when he tries to even get into range of her cc... lets vayne laugh it off

"oh you probably dont play vayne" i have mastery 4 and ive played with her bullshit, she does need nerfs

bottom line, vayne needs nerfs

65 Comments

CaítlynAug 4, 20163 votes

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I am bad at this game

I agree

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20162 votes

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I agree, vayne is op

thanks fam

PeanutButterFanAug 4, 20161 votes

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I agree

The ONE THING i agree with u on, caît.

ReZisT LustAug 4, 20162 votes

teemo isnt only lane counter

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20162 votes

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teemo isnt only lane counter

wanna pick teemo? be my guest and get annihilated by vaynes team without her even hitting you once

CerealBoxOfDoomAug 4, 20162 votes

hurrdurr BELIEVE ME I'm mastery four hurr powur level is YUUUUGE

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20161 votes

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hurrdurr BELIEVE ME I'm mastery four hurr powur level is YUUUUGE

just putting out that i do play her for when people say that i dont play her

CerealBoxOfDoomAug 4, 20162 votes

don't tell them youre anything short of mastery 7, that's not going to convince anyone you play vayne seriously lol

you don't even have to be good to get mastery 7 you just have to play them plenty and not suck

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 4, 20161 votes

i looked at your match history of 50-100 games you have 2 games played as vayne. i wouldnt call that being a vayne player

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=53abcERn,comment-id=000500000001,timestamp=2016-08-04T11:21:10.970+0000)

i looked at your match history of 50-100 games you have 2 games played as vayne. i wouldnt call that being a vayne player

im confused? i have mastery 4 on her and im pretty sure i would need to play her more than 2 games to get that?

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 4, 20161 votes

i said i didnt look at all of your match history just the last 50 or so games you have 2 games of vayne during that span. according to your match history on this website you have 4 games of vayne played dating back to 9-5-2015. so unless the match history on leagueoflegends.com is bugged. you have played vayne 4 times

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=53abcERn,comment-id=00050000000100000000,timestamp=2016-08-04T21:28:11.935+0000)

i said i didnt look at all of your match history just the last 50 or so games you have 2 games of vayne during that span. according to your match history on this website you have 4 games of vayne played dating back to 9-5-2015. so unless the match history on leagueoflegends.com is bugged. you have played vayne 4 times

http://championmasterylookup.derpthemeus.com/summoner/?summoner=Natiliethewolf&region=NA Vayne 4 21,073 ??

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 4, 20161 votes

you havent play vayne in 2 weeks. if she is sooo broken and over powered why arent you spamming her in every game of rank and getting out of low elo and all the way to master? because its not you that would make vayne broken, you elo/mmr would prove that and your not in master would meant that vayne inst so broken and overpowered that any low elo scrubb like yourself can ride her to master tier.

do you wanna know what was broken?

Kassadin in season 3-4 he had a perma ban rate of 96%. was prema ban in worlds. MasterYi AP MID had zero counter play, he could literally 1 shot an entire team back before they nerfed him.

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=53abcERn,comment-id=0005000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-04T23:15:22.835+0000)

you havent play vayne in 2 weeks. if she is sooo broken and over powered why arent you spamming her in every game of rank and getting out of low elo and all the way to master? because its not you that would make vayne broken, you elo/mmr would prove that and your not in master would meant that vayne inst so broken and overpowered that any low elo scrubb like yourself can ride her to master tier.

do you wanna know what was broken?

in season 3-4 he had a perma ban rate of 96%. was prema ban in worlds. AP MID had zero counter play, he could literally 1 shot an entire team back before they nerfed him.

im not spamming her because thats a goddamn dick move and plus shes really boring IMO, and those two were broken at their times and vayne is broken in her time rn

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 4, 20161 votes

you do realize at this point i suspect you to be a troll. no one agrees with your post, did you noticed the # of down votes? have you noticed all the counter points i have made to every one of your arguments plus the other people who provided stats to disprove your point. either your mental or a troll if not both. vayne has a 45.3% win rate which is 14th among "marksmen" classed champs. marksmen average win rate is 50% which means she is 4.7% lower then average . league classifies 21 champs as "marksman" those being Ashe Caitlyn Corki Draven Ezreal Graves Jhin Jinx Kalista Kindred KogMaw Lucian MissFortune Quinn Sivir Teemo Tristana Twitch Urgot Varus Vayne

and she has the 14th best win rate of the 21 meaning she is in the lower third of win rates by all champs considered marksmen.

if anything vayne needs buffs. riot has made a change on her q recently to try to give a small boost to it. they have been playing with changes on the PBE to make her stronger. so you gonna sit there and say after all this evidence vayne is still broken?

come on stop trolling

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

HahahahyenaAug 5, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=53abcERn,comment-id=000500000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-04T23:29:20.198+0000)

you do realize at this point i suspect you to be a troll. no one agrees with your post, did you noticed the # of down votes? have you noticed all the counter points i have made to every one of your arguments plus the other people who provided stats to disprove your point. either your mental or a troll if not both. vayne has a 45.3% win rate which is 14th among "marksmen" classed champs. marksmen average win rate is 50% which means she is 4.7% lower then average . league classifies 21 champs as "marksman" those being

and she has the 14th best win rate of the 21 meaning she is in the lower third of win rates by all champs considered marksmen.

if anything vayne needs buffs. riot has made a change on her q recently to try to give a small boost to it. they have been playing with changes on the PBE to make her stronger. so you gonna sit there and say after all this evidence vayne is still broken?

come on stop trolling

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

ca;; me a troll all you want she still needs nerfs and riot just want to buff her because they dont care about anything they just want to see better plays and fuck everyone else

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 5, 20161 votes

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[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 4, 20162 votes

lol wish that was the case just played a game where my team had an adc vayne who went 0-14-7 and had a total of 67 cs in a 28 min game. yes nerf the vayne she is soooo broken.

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=53abcERn,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2016-08-04T04:21:51.230+0000)

lol wish that was the case just played a game where my team had an adc vayne who went 0-14-7 and had a total of 67 cs in a 28 min game. yes nerf the vayne she is soooo broken.

every champ whether they are the most broken piece of shit riot can think of or the most underpowered bullcrap riot ignores if the player is bad theres no hope for the champ. just because the player was bad doesnt mean vayne doesnt need nerfs

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 4, 20161 votes

vayne isnt broken, to say you have a lvl 4 mastery on her dont mean anything. vayne is a high risk high reward type of adc. she is easily abused in lane and can get put behind. in team fights her short range makes it more difficult to play well due to your positioning has to be great. you spacial awareness of the map , due to her kit she doesnt scale with ad very well compared to other adcs. vayne is better with attack speed / dueling items such as item 3153 item 3046 majority of her damage comes from the proc of her silver bullets which she has to have 3 attacks on you.

if vayne is to get to late game she is one of the hardest adc's to 1 vs 1 against. but if you know how to play against a fed hyper carry you dont try to 1 vs 1 them anyways. at lower elo/mmr which you are, and majority of all players in rank vayne inst an issue. as the rank/elo/mmr goes up and people can truly use vayne to her true mechanical ability she is more dangerious.

if im playing adc and i see vayne picked before me i will gladly pick Ashe Caitlyn Varus Tristana into her and punish her early, push her under her turret make her miss cs and with a i have 1 vs 1 potential and i can easily take her turret in lane.

as for her stealth it is only active when her ult is up, and she tumbles and its easily countered if you or your support has a item 3364

she is so broken her pick and win % is lower then most adcs other then kalista. riot just made changes to her to try to give her a buff so she is more viable but thats just not enough.

its too easily to cc and blow up a vayne in team fights when you are coordinated and focused but if your not and you let her dance in the back and auto the whole time she can easily ace the team just like any other adc Ashe Caitlyn Corki Draven Ezreal Jhin Jinx Kindred Lucian MissFortune Quinn Sivir Tristana Twitch Varus KogMaw

personally i think the adc with the most late game danger is a full build KogMaw

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=53abcERn,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2016-08-04T11:15:59.362+0000)

vayne isnt broken, to say you have a lvl 4 mastery on her dont mean anything. vayne is a high risk high reward type of adc. she is easily abused in lane and can get put behind. in team fights her short range makes it more difficult to play well due to your positioning has to be great. you spacial awareness of the map , due to her kit she doesnt scale with ad very well compared to other adcs. vayne is better with attack speed / dueling items such as majority of her damage comes from the proc of her silver bullets which she has to have 3 attacks on you.

if vayne is to get to late game she is one of the hardest adc's to 1 vs 1 against. but if you know how to play against a fed hyper carry you dont try to 1 vs 1 them anyways. at lower elo/mmr which you are, and majority of all players in rank vayne inst an issue. as the rank/elo/mmr goes up and people can truly use vayne to her true mechanical ability she is more dangerious.

if im playing adc and i see vayne picked before me i will gladly pick into her and punish her early, push her under her turret make her miss cs and with a i have 1 vs 1 potential and i can easily take her turret in lane.

as for her stealth it is only active when her ult is up, and she tumbles and its easily countered if you or your support has a

she is so broken her pick and win % is lower then most adcs other then kalista. riot just made changes to her to try to give her a buff so she is more viable but thats just not enough.

its too easily to cc and blow up a vayne in team fights when you are coordinated and focused but if your not and you let her dance in the back and auto the whole time she can easily ace the team just like any other adc

personally i think the adc with the most late game danger is a full build

vayne is just a hot mess of bullshit riot needs to fix, vayne late game doesnt even need to be fed or even reach late game once she has bortk and another not even finishe AS item she pummels anyone who reaches her and thos counters you mentioned theyre only lane counters and vayne could just side farm if need be and if you think theyll counter her in teamfights that isnt true cause they just get popped when trying to even target vayne because of vaynes team and kogmaw is scary late game but he doesnt have bullshit abilities and can tumble invis to safety, once he starts attacking hes a sitting duck or not doing any dps

(i stated that i have mastery 4 because i knew people would say that i dont play her)

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 4, 20161 votes

you are incorrect in everything you say, you say your lvl 4 vayne which means zero, you a silver rank player which means you wouldnt have the mechanical skill to be a good vayne. its ok i am too silver. i checked your match history on this website for vayne and vayne only for all maps it said you played vayne a total of 4 times. where if you check mine i have 14 games of vayne played. vayne needs more then bork and phatom dancer to have a high impact late game. just as any other champ who is behind and dont have items they dont do jack shit.

MarshbouyAug 4, 20161 votes

https://champion.gg/champion/Vayne/ADC no. she is not unstoppable. she is not even OP.

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20161 votes

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https://champion.gg/champion/Vayne/ADC no. she is not unstoppable. she is not even OP.

just like azir's stats except he gets nerfed every other patch

ntbcoolAug 4, 20162 votes

he gets nerfed because of professional play... they don't nerf champions for no reason just cause someone doesn't know how to play against them.

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20162 votes

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he gets nerfed because of professional play... they don't nerf champions for no reason just cause someone doesn't know how to play against them.

so why doesnt riot nerf vayne because of unprofessional play where shes fucking unstoppable

ntbcoolAug 4, 20161 votes

because she isn't....... https://champion.gg/champion/Vayne/ADC

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20161 votes

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because she isn't....... https://champion.gg/champion/Vayne/ADC

again, those are exactly like azir stats except he gets nerfed

ntbcoolAug 4, 20161 votes

ARE U STUPID, HE GOT NERFED BECAUSE HE WAS STRONG IN PROFESSIONAL PLAY. Vayne is not and those stats show she isn't strong in nonprofessional play, not sure if your a troll or just dumb lol.

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20161 votes

lol not strong youre funny

MarshbouyAug 4, 20161 votes

because azir has double the range AOE knockup+displacement+peel in AOE Slows Much higher mobility Much higher waveclear. Professional play. need me to go on?

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20161 votes

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because azir has double the range AOE knockup+displacement+peel in AOE Slows Much higher mobility Much higher waveclear. Professional play. need me to go on?

and vayne has %health true damage self peel average range invisibility dash ad steroid basically a sheen short cd's oh, and an unstoppable late game

MarshbouyAug 4, 20161 votes

Azir has the Ap version of all of those except for no true damage. no invisibility. no sheen. but he does have AOE self peel, knockup, displacement, which is better than vaynes. Low cds. can build a turret. and also has an unstoppable late game.

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20161 votes

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Azir has the Ap version of all of those except for no true damage. no invisibility. no sheen. but he does have AOE self peel, knockup, displacement, which is better than vaynes. Low cds. can build a turret. and also has an unstoppable late game.

if vayne is similar to azir then she definately should have nerfs but noo riot still loves ad too much for them to nerf her

MarshbouyAug 4, 20161 votes

gg. you are either too salted to respond to reason or a troll.

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20161 votes

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gg. you are either too salted to respond to reason or a troll.

just smart enough to see riot's repulsively flawed balance team and how they handle everything

MarshbouyAug 4, 20163 votes

no. you are not smart.

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20161 votes

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no. you are not smart.

seeing how riot balances, im pretty sure i have the same amount of brain power as them

ntbcoolAug 4, 20161 votes

Don't even try some people don't know how to use their head.

KaiokoAug 4, 20161 votes

So you're stating that she does a lot of damage and she is difficult to kill because her team protects her even while she has a shorter range than all other ADCs? So she does the exact same thing as all other ADCs got it.

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20162 votes

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So you're stating that she does a lot of damage and she is difficult to kill because her team protects her even while she has a shorter range than all other ADCs? So she does the exact same thing as all other ADCs got it.

except every other adc can be killed a hell of a lot easier than her, she has self peel, dashes and invisibility, plus her range is average and while shes dipping and diving her way around the fight her team is busy either saving her even more or annihilating the enemy team

PermabannedGarenAug 4, 20161 votes

Have you ever considered the possibility that you're just a bad player?

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20161 votes

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Have you ever considered the possibility that you're just a bad player?

everyday but still say vayne needs a nerf because of her no counterplay

PermabannedGarenAug 4, 20161 votes

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everyday but still say vayne needs a nerf because of her no counterplay

How does she have no counterplay? Of ADCs she is one of the easiest to engage on as a team because she has the shortest effective range.

And don't give me that "her AA range is average", I understand that you're not very smart so you didn't think of this, but what makes Vayne so short ranged is that her abilities give her no extra range beyond her auto attacks. Every other ADC, including shorter AA ones like Sivir, Lucian, or even Graves, do.

She is also completely single target, as opposed to Twitch who can fire on your entire team.

HahahahyenaAug 4, 20161 votes

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How does she have no counterplay? Of ADCs she is one of the easiest to engage on as a team because she has the shortest effective range.

And don't give me that "her AA range is average", I understand that you're not very smart so you didn't think of this, but what makes Vayne so short ranged is that her abilities give her no extra range beyond her auto attacks. Every other ADC, including shorter AA ones like Sivir, Lucian, or even Graves, do.

She is also completely single target, as opposed to Twitch who can fire on your entire team.

you think %health true damage, dashes, invisibility, pure AS builds, self peel, and a built in sheen has counter play? all she does is fucking obliterates anyone in her range and thanks to her single target she melts everyone no matter what and she doesnt even need to hit multiple targets at once because she basically does with how fast she kills everyone. you cant build against her because of her bullshit, you cant focus her because of her bullshit, you cant ignore her because of her bullshit. shes just utter bullshit that riot NEEDS to nerf

PermabannedGarenAug 4, 20161 votes

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you think %health true damage

Yes, you're not meant to be able to tank her damage. Same with Kog'maw.

dashes,

Without dashes Vayne would be like a Kog'maw with two hundred less units of AA range, less attack speed, and less AOE damage.

invisibility,

This is the only aspect of her kit I actually find problematic late game, but it's not really Vayne's fault. It's the fault of Rito removing the pink warding trinket.

pure AS builds,

Very few Vaynes do this. Vayne generally builds like one more AS item than the average ADC, that being item 3153 . Kog by comparison builds five AS items.

self peel,

She can peel one guy from her, whoopty fucking doo. Kalista and Tristana can peel multiple people while being harder to engage on, for comparison.

and a built in sheen has counter play?

It deals half the damage of sheen. I mean, I guess you can't outplay Vayne's auto attacks, no, but you can't outplay anyone's, can you?

all she does is fucking obliterates anyone in her range

She's a late game hypercarry, it's her job. Twitch does the same thing to an entire team, and can get to that point more reliably.

and thanks to her single target she melts everyone no matter what and she doesnt even need to hit multiple targets at once because she basically does with how fast she kills everyone.

No one said dealing with Vayne late game should be easy. It shouldn't. She sacrifices a good laning phase for that late game. She's actually easier to deal with than an Azir late game, or a Twitch. At least she's short ranged.

you cant build against her because of her bullshit

item 3110 item 3143 item 3053 item 3401

you cant focus her because of her bullshit

Ridiculous assertion, Vayne is so short ranged that she is much less forgiving in team fights than, say, Tristana.

you cant ignore her because of her bullshit.

There is no ADC you can ignore late game.

shes just utter bullshit that riot NEEDS to nerf

Why? Because you're so bad at the game that she regularly beats your ass? Vayne is statistically not a problem for good players. Get fucking good or go home.

HahahahyenaAug 5, 20161 votes

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Yes, you're not meant to be able to tank her damage. Same with Kog'maw.

i would have no problem with her if her true damage scaled with ad not %hp

Without dashes Vayne would be like a Kog'maw with two hundred less units of AA range, less attack speed, and less AOE damage.

dashes are fine but when they reset autos thats bullshit

This is the only aspect of her kit I actually find problematic late game, but it's not really Vayne's fault. It's the fault of Rito removing the pink warding trinket.

riot always finds ways to fuck everyone

Very few Vaynes do this. Vayne generally builds like one more AS item than the average ADC, that being . Kog by comparison builds five AS items.

vayne not building all AS? lol sure

She can peel one guy from her, whoopty fucking doo. Kalista and Tristana can peel multiple people while being harder to engage on, for comparison.

oin top of her bullshit she shouldnt be able to

It deals half the damage of sheen. I mean, I guess you can't outplay Vayne's auto attacks, no, but you can't outplay anyone's, can you?

She's a late game hypercarry, it's her job. Twitch does the same thing to an entire team, and can get to that point more reliably.

at least twitch is a sitting duck when popped out of invis, he cant go back in nor dash out

No one said dealing with Vayne late game should be easy. It shouldn't. She sacrifices a good laning phase for that late game. She's actually easier to deal with than an Azir late game, or a Twitch. At least she's short ranged.

if shes going to have a extremely good late game that she does now then she needs an even weaker early game because her current "weak" laning phase does not justify her late game

she can still completely pop anyopne even if you build those

Ridiculous assertion, Vayne is so short ranged that she is much less forgiving in team fights than, say, Tristana.

yeah because if you focus her shes just going to dash away and let her team annihilate you

There is no ADC you can ignore late game.

cant focus her cant ignore her, shes jsut bullshit

Why? Because you're so bad at the game that she regularly beats your ass? Vayne is statistically not a problem for good players. Get fucking good or go home.

shge needs to be nerfed because all she does is be utter bullshit, thats a fact because like i said before you cant focus her you cant ignore her and you cant counterbuild her

PermabannedGarenAug 5, 20161 votes

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i would have no problem with her if her true damage scaled with ad not %hp

So what, like Yi? Wouldn't be any different. She'd just stop building crit and legitimately build nothing but AD and attack speed, focusing on an on-hit build like he did. Maybe even a fun bruiser on-hit build. Is that what you want?

dashes are fine but when they reset autos thats bullshit

I'm pretty sure that most dashes on ranged champions reset autos.

vayne not building all AS? lol sure

http://champion.gg/champion/Vayne

Builds one more AS item than the average ADC.

http://champion.gg/champion/KogMaw/ADC

Compare to Kog.

oin top of her bullshit she shouldnt be able to

Then she'd be shit.

at least twitch is a sitting duck when popped out of invis, he cant go back in nor dash out

Twitch is a sitting duck because he auto attacks from like 800 units away. Imagine if Twitch had mobility. He'd be far and away the best ADC in the game.

if shes going to have a extremely good late game that she does now then she needs an even weaker early game because her current "weak" laning phase does not justify her late game

There is not a single ADC that Vayne beats in lane, she is very easily punished.

she can still completely pop anyopne even if you build those

Then kill her? You're not meant to be able to mindlessly face tank Vayne's damage. Why do you think you should be able to?

yeah because if you focus her shes just going to dash away and let her team annihilate you

Her dash is 300 units lmao get fucking good. I'd like to see her dash away from a Malphite or Vi ult.

cant focus her cant ignore her, shes jsut bullshit

No, you're just bad at the game.

shge needs to be nerfed because all she does is be utter bullshit, thats a fact because like i said before you cant focus her you cant ignore her and you cant counterbuild her

Your own dumb opinion is not a fact.

HahahahyenaAug 5, 20161 votes

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So what, like Yi? Wouldn't be any different. She'd just stop building crit and legitimately build nothing but AD and attack speed, focusing on an on-hit build like he did. Maybe even a fun bruiser on-hit build. Is that what you want?

vayne already can build bruiser AS because of her bullshit

I'm pretty sure that most dashes on ranged champions reset autos.

and how low her cd is on them? on top of the rest of her kit she is too powerful

http://champion.gg/champion/Vayne

Builds one more AS item than the average ADC.

http://champion.gg/champion/KogMaw/ADC

Compare to Kog.

alright got me there

Then she'd be shit.

Twitch is a sitting duck because he auto attacks from like 800 units away. Imagine if Twitch had mobility. He'd be far and away the best ADC in the game.

yeah but at least twitch cant really move all that often, vayne tumbles in out and everywhere, shes jsut bullshit

There is not a single ADC that Vayne beats in lane, she is very easily punished.

lol she cant beat pre lvl 3 but after she can auto q e and get free damage that cant be dodged and when you get a lane bully she just would need to side farm her way to being fed and then group up with her team

Then kill her? You're not meant to be able to mindlessly face tank Vayne's damage. Why do you think you should be able to?

cant kill her if you cant even get to her, all she does is tumbles e and whittles you down extremely fast, she shouldnt be able to do that while being the only thing thats focused 90% of the game, its just bullshit

Her dash is 300 units lmao get fucking good. I'd like to see her dash away from a Malphite or Vi ult.

enough to evade most damage in teamfights, she just tumbles in and out when need be then completely obliterates

HigeAug 5, 20162 votes

for the record I agree with you but she does have extra range beyond her autoattacks, her Q moves her forward 300 units, so for a single auto she has an effective inmediate range of 750 and 6 seconds later once again, she's somewhat difficult to trade with since she can proc 3 autos with ease (auto, Q, E, or auto, auto, Q) and if she ends up in a bad spot she can always condemn you far beyond anyone's auto... so her damage early isn't all that bad either, couple her with a healer and well, things spin out of control.