Pls revert Aatrox

Bay B··7 votes·1,490 views

For me it's just Riots logic that tilts me. The reason (from what I understand) why they gutted and changed Aatrox was because apparently the old Aatrox was 'too hard to balance', so changing his style completely was the 'only' way.

After seeing the Akali and now Nunu rework I REALLY don't understand how they had no possible way to retain the old Aatrox playstyle. Nerf his W, play around with the AoE burst of his ult, make his E less spammable in lane. They certainly could've made changes to balance the champion, but instead we got this basic, dull champ, whose kit relies on 1 ability that's so slow and clunky compared to the old Aatrox. It just makes me sad that of all the champion reworks, so many good ones, the one champ I loved was the only one that 'couldn't be balanced'. What made Aatrox so different? What mechanic put him over the 'cannot be balanced' line, and once that mechanic is identified, why couldn't it of been tweaked?

If Riot can retain Akali and Nunus playstyles so well, I really dont see how Aatrox could've been that much worse.

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Live2LetDie3 votes

Your just joining the list of vets that have had their mains completely redone. Its sad really.

Bay B2 votes

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Your just joining the list of vets that have had their mains completely redone. Its sad really.

Actually no. Plenty of champs I play (Irelia Graves Poppy Swain Urgot Warwick XinZhao ) who we're reworked I never made posts about, because they were successful reworks.

Im posting specifically about Aatrox because his rework was such an outliar compared to the rest. Sure I might be biased because he was one of my mains, but that doesn't change the fact that Aatrox was given a very mediocre rework when looking to preservethe original style of the champ. I question the reasons and rational as to why it 'had to be done'.

After3perma2 votes

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Actually no. Plenty of champs I play (Irelia Graves Poppy Swain Urgot Warwick XinZhao ) who we're reworked I never made posts about, because they were successful reworks.

Irelia successful? Rito turned her into a hyper-mobile juggernaut champion that one shots squishy targets.

Bay B1 votes

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Irelia successful? Rito turned her into a hyper-mobile juggernaut champion that one shots squishy targets.

They successfully retained her identity

Kot W Czapce1 votes

Urgot rework wasn't successful as well. They just make totaly another champion, from Ezreal (without skillshot on Q after E) they range tank champion. Galio rework same, i don't enjoy playing tanks and doing totaly nothing but still killing because tanks are OP.

Hotarµ2 votes

Not going to lie, I never played much of old Aatrox myself, but I dislike the new version as well.

New Aatrox is very awkward to play around. He doesn't feel like Yasuo Azir Shen or Rakan, where you get into a rhythm and can move fluidly. I dislike playing him and fighting him makes him feel either too weak or too strong.


Old Aatrox was even worse to play around. High damage, high lifesteal, could build tankier, and with new runes he was even stronger than before. People need to understand that drain tanks are probably the least fun to fight against. That's why you almost never see Olaf and Aatrox at high winrates for long periods of time. Yes, you can build grevious wounds, but the entire playstyle of "I'm going to do a ton of damage and heal at the same time" being integrated into their kit is just bad design.

Dat Kat1 votes

Stop spammmm.

I don't understand why your first post about this almost gives no constructive feed back about the argument at all, gets upvotes when this one which includes a piece of your mind receives downvotes . . xDD

Also . . stop spam.

Bay B1 votes

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Stop spammmm.

I don't understand why your first post about this almost gives no constructive feed back about the argument at all, gets upvotes when this one which includes a piece of your mind receives downvotes . . xDD

Also . . stop spamming again.

Couldn't tell you

GrãñðmãstêrShãçø1 votes

They delete champions after they rework them, meaning the old aatrox could only come back if the built him from the ground up, and to them it is not worth it

Bay B1 votes

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They delete champions after they rework them, meaning the old aatrox could only come back if the built him from the ground up, and to them it is not worth it

They reverted Leblanc after she had been remade for almost 2 years. . Don't think what you're saying is true

Infernape1 votes

LeBlanc got a gameplay update. She didn't get effectively VGUed. With her it was a case of changing how her spells worked.

GrãñðmãstêrShãçø1 votes

she got a gameplay update not a full scale rework

Bay B1 votes

Does anyone on Boards want to actually talk about reworks and champ designs or is everyone here to cast judgement and criticisms?

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Seems to be a fair amount of discussion to me.

Bay B1 votes

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Seems to be a fair amount of discussion to me.

Comments like these contribute nothing

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Then neither does your comment I replied too.

Discussion doesn't mean people have to agree with you.

You stated an opinion regarding this thread, I offered a counter view.

Bay B1 votes

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Then neither does your comment I replied too.

Discussion doesn't mean people have to agree with you.

You stated an opinion regarding this thread, I offered a counter view.

The counter view being that there is lots of discussion? Discussion isn't always productive, which is my point. There might be lots of comments, but few actually address the issue I'm trying to highlight, including both of your replies.

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