For as many problems as Shaco causes, Riot doesn't seem to be in any hurry to rework him

L Psy Kongroo·Apr 4, 2018·2 votes·384 views

Can't buff him because his winrate shoots up to 56%+ within a few days, then he inevitably gets nerfed in the very next patch. His kit is obviously problematic, but Riot seems content to sweep him under the rug until they randomly remember he exists and throw him a bone, whereupon the aforementioned pattern takes place.

No one in the community talks about him either because 90% of the boards would be happier if Shaco stayed a shit champion forever, so any attempts at constructive discussion about him are immediately swamped by downvotes, or ignored outright. It's getting really hard to stay interested in the game when the only champion I truly enjoy playing is treated with such disdain.

6 Comments

heroikcApr 4, 20182 votes

Probably because he walks the thin line between oppresively trollish and outright useless XD

L Psy KongrooApr 4, 20181 votes

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Probably because he walks the thin line between oppresively trollish and outright useless XD

All the more reason for Riot to rework him.

heroikcApr 4, 20181 votes

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All the more reason for Riot to rework him.

So what? Make his story as another demon, like Evelynn and Tahm, but with an emphasis on fear rather than lust or gluttony? And how to make his kit? I personally can't stand AP shaco because his boxes can cc for so long and do so much damage it's ridiculous, but fear would be a major theme for Shaco...

Gamer GalladeApr 4, 20181 votes

they need to stop buffing him. Same goes for Nunu

really the main problem that i see from Shaco is his god damn Q. Its basically a shorter cooldown then flash and has a invisibility along side him, Which i shit you not is fucking bullshit that you have no way of detecting him and the red trinket is near useless against him.

and we all know the massive joke with that clone, He becomes useless after 20 mins(which is kinda true if he doesnt build dark harvest)

Hes such a massive pain in the ass and really pissed hes meta because hes a nightmare to face.

I wish they changed his q Invis into camouflaged so that he doesnt come out of nowhere have some counterplay in him.

Then again that change will make him garbage.

GildarztApr 4, 20181 votes

is, by far, the most cd blink / dash skill in the game without any tool to restart or something like that.

If you change to camuflaje you need to give him something because he only has his stealth.

JmmanApr 4, 20181 votes

Fiddlesticks Shaco Nunu

The issues are the kits. You can't tweak the numbers with these guys. Something has to be done with one or more spells and how the interact.

Shaco Personally they need to change how Box works. I know he needs this for jungle. But I always thought Graves smoke screen would have been soo cool on shaco for a large AoE ult.

Nunu I don't know he just needs some other type of damage. Heck make one of his skill the snowball from aram. But needs something else.

Fiddlesticks Too much damage in ult. Really weak and immobile to make most of his damage come at close range.

These were fine a few seasons and years ago. But with all the "FUN" added to newer kits and sustain added to everyone they lost there niches. Fiddle and Nunu had sustain and shaco was a fast clear with boxes tanking a lot of the damage. Now everyone and there mom just AA heals the jungle and ganking top at 3 while the top is just 2 or 1. These champs need changes when they totally changed how the jungle and champs were going to work. Sadly they were looked over because of the 1,987,463,147 rework of Ryze and twinking of the ADC class to burst per second.