How to build graves and draven?

Knight SoIaire ··1 votes·732 views

as far as the adc changes go draven and graves become kinda unique which means that itemization does not support them as much as it did atm we have infinity edge carries which tend to dominate the game (tristana oh boyyyy ,jinx,cait ) triforce carries who tend to fight with ie carries on the field (kog,corki and ez, one wariant of lucian build) and youmu+botrk carries which are usualy more bursty than the others (other lucian build, twitch, vayne )

draven is an adc that scales mainly with ad, before the changes his main item was a bloodthirster which amped his q quite much the similar case was also graves, his burst came from skills which were not amped by youmu steroids the thing is that i dont know what to do with those carries blodthirster as first item will gut you (you get a shield that will be completly destroyed by one crit from ie ) infinity edge is not so strong as it is on true autoatackers while your kit does not realy support triforce nor botrk youmu combo

i personaly like draven and graves but i kinda get confused in itemisation now, since now there are actualy diferent builds for ad carries besides the standard bloodthirsted or ie rush we had before

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cshakes2 votes

Draven: IE -> BT -> LW into the other 80 AD items that build from B.F. Sword. (Essence Reaver, Mercurial Scimitar)

Graves: IE -> Statikk -> LW -> 80AD items; OR: IE -> 80AD item (Essence Reaver?) -> LW -> other 80 AD items.

Note: the point where you'll build LW depends a lot on the enemy's armor itemization. For boots, Berserker's Greaves and Lucidity Boots both work.

Cloud Potato1 votes

This is mostly right. Draven can get an AS item if he wants (Shiv works well with him), as it will let him throw two axes and be able to catch them both, as well as helping him out if he fails to keep axes up, but going all AD works fine too.

In terms of the 80 AD items, you should always get an IE (as mentioned), and at least one Lifesteal item. As for how to choose which items to get, here's a general idea of what they do:

Bloodthirster: Best survivability Essence Reaver: More ability spam Mercurial Scimitar: Cleanse CC, more reliable defense when you can't stack BT's shield Infinity Edge: More damage!

MrBuffington1 votes

imls has a CDR Graves build, basically functions like CDR Lucian (but arguably better, since Graves has a permanent AS buff)

item 3142 item 3158 item 3046 item 3031 item 3035 item 3078

He takes scaling mana regen blues and 21-6-3 masteries (3 in utility for mana regen) in order to deal with his mana problems. Lategame his CDR is high enough that he can use the sheen passive pretty well.

I've seen pro Draven players go for Brutalizer before the standard IE/PD/BT build. Draven does really good damage with IE since most of his damage is spinning axe autos.

Tenryu Izayoi1 votes

I have a build for graves that has been useful for me, is:

Berserker Greaves, BT, Runaan's, IE, Statikk, Essence Reaver

The order of BT and Essence can be changed depending of your use of mana.

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