@meddler, are you going to address the insta melting of tanks by adc in the rework?

Bultz··3 votes·732 views

I mean I build 300 armor or more and just as much mr and I get insta melted by adcs. What purpose in the game is there when I can build full tank, not even any damage items, and on balanced tanks get vaporized by jinx mains.

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Matake2 votes

Because tanks are just supposed to stand there and get melted. ADCs punish tanks who are out of place by killing them.

Tanks are supposed to be able to die.

You cannot justify being able to do massive damage to squishy units while not being kill-able. Tanks are doing their jobs just fine. The tank rework is being done because they are TOO effective in almost all situations. Tanks are ruining the game because how of strong they are right now. Tanks have NEVER been this strong in the history of the game.

Bultz2 votes

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Because tanks are just supposed to stand there and get melted. ADCs punish tanks who are out of place by killing them.

There is pushing, then there is killing a champion who is stacked in armor with no effort in 3 seconds.

Tanks are supposed to be able to die.

obviously, be melted in seconds? no.

You cannot justify being able to do massive damage to squishy units while not being kill-able. Tanks are doing their jobs just fine. The tank rework is being done because they are TOO effective in almost all situations. Tanks are ruining the game because how of strong they are right now. Tanks have NEVER been this strong in the history of the game.

Tanks don't do massive damge, especially full tanks. They are by no means "too effective". If I wanted to waste 30 minutes winning top lane, building full tank to be insta melted by adc's I wouldn't go tank to begin with. What point would there be other than to be dead weight. Your mental if you think tanks are broken and adc's are fine.

Rewt1 votes

actually..... they do massive damage lol. i play mao jungle occasionally and i W Q E an adc for 3/4 of their HP with full tank items. so yea..... they do a shit ton of damage.

Also Tanks are getting melted yes, but i feel that if you look at what the op has said you will realise he is building horribly wrong against the ADCs. Lethality is a flat pen value that i think you can get a max of like 60 (could be wrong) so you want to get 200 + the max possible lethality. this means that 200 = 70% damage reduc and since lethality is a flat amount you get enough armor to cancel out the flat number. once you have that build HP. once that is done if they are melting you its because they are an ADC. not because of lethality.

RogueWill1 votes

2 tanks do masive damage (Maokai Poppy ), 2 do decent damage(Nautilus Zac ). rest do no damage at all. Using the top tank as a bse line for all tanks usually don't give good results

Big Lincoln2 votes

Tanks have NEVER been this strong in the history of the game.

there are like 3 tanks that are meta atm, poppy maokai and nautilus

try cinderhulk season 5

Sanctimonious1 votes

Can we go back to this?

Rewt1 votes

NO PLEASE GOD NO. id rather get instapopped than watch the sad fight between 4 wet noodles on each team slapping their dicks together while the ADCs are useless. Ive been playing since season 2 and can tell you getting instakilled by people who are actually squishy is a very nice change from getting instakilled by tanks when you try to build damage instead of tank.

Sanctimonious1 votes

I'm a support / adc main... I personally haven't had any issues with dying from tanks.

Rewt1 votes

When my team needs a tank jungle i play maokai jungle and my w q e on a target does about 1/2 their HP and if i pop my ult that will do 1/4 of their HP. Its pretty insane against squishies because tanks have dumb fucking base damages

HeresyHorus2 votes

my problem is that adc can melt can melt BOTH tanks and squishies with no effort ( right click ).

i was spectating my friend and he was playing velkoz ( power 10 ranked by riot ) late game he went to his jungle to get blue to max his CDR ( item 3157 item 3135 item 3020 item 3089 item 3165 item 3116 ) and suddenly a lone draven with item 3814 item 3031 item 3072 item 3094 item 3036 item 3142 appeared and here what happened :

  1. draven appeared with item 3814 active ( with how spammable it is, no wonder ).
  2. draven launched his first aa with Q + RFC and vel used his W + Q ( both acted at the same time )
  3. draven aa critted for more than half of vel HP and just as the dmg of the first aa registered another aa was in its way.
  4. part of vel E was blocked so he couldnt proc his passive and draven still had more than half of his HP after the 0. 5W + Q combo .
  5. draven second aa ( no crit ) landed the same time vel used his heal but even with it he was reduced to 0.25 hp so another aa will sure kill him crit or not.
  6. draven 3rd aa and vel E used at the same time.
  7. vel had to use zhonya to avoid death by the incoming aa and draven avoided vel E cuz he is fast thanks to GB active ( 6 sec and the fight didnt even last for 4 sec counting zhonya active ) and vel E is so slow ( even if vel E landed and proced the passive it will not be enough to kill darven and he can still aa the blue golem to life steal while vel in zhonya ).
  8. draven spammed laugh and skill icon on top of vel waiting for zhonya to end.
  9. vel used flash as soon as he could but not after getting tagged by 4th aa and die to it after flashing.

the best part of it was as draven he didnt need to aim any shit or curse his spells slow cast time and travel time like vel did or curse zhonya as it was useless in that fight.

and they say mages counter ADCs ??

adc in 2k17 lulz.

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

The only item you have is just item 3025 , and that itself is not considered "tanky" at all.

Jihyobda1 votes

It's just fine like this, it's like on Pokémon with strenghts and weaknesses:

Tanks beat assassins with cc and displacemnts Assassins beat ADCs with burst damage and mobility ADCs beat tanks with DPS and armor shred

It's the way the game works

Edit: this is the most simplistic breakdown i could came up with, not considering that tanks are divided in subclasses like assassins and ADCs and also there are fighters and supports

Randomonium1 votes

Maybe in the ultra late game this is somewhat true but for the most part tanks absolutely wreck ADCS before they are full build. Just watch some of imaqtpie's videos where he's 7/1 and yet he still can't solo a 3/7 maokai. It's pretty absurd. When I play divers and tanks I don't fear ADCs at all unless they have at least 4 items and one of them is last whisper. When I play ADC I have to run from everyone for the first 30 minutes of the game.

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