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You know every time I make a post about normals being a horrible experience for player below gold

Ramen226··5 votes·406 views

It's always players above gold telling me that it isn't and how it's fine that silver players are put against diamond players on a daily basis. It's always the diamond player that says "normal mmr is different than ranked mmr downvote downvote downvote downvote downvote downvote." Because I guess explaining how the current system works is supposed to make it somehow make sense as to why it currently exists.

I'm perfectly aware of how the current system is designed, I'm trying to ask it's why it's still being used if it consistently pumps out low quality games for people below gold. But every time I make a post or ask a question about it, random players from the elos i'm talking about spam downvote the post because they don't want to try to win in normals. Seriously why do high elo players make smurfs when normals are going to place you versus low elo players anyways.

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fumiefan2 votes

Blind pick may be the single worst game mode ever created. Between the playing for fun crew vs the playing to win crew, people picking troll picks for support because they don't want to support, the constant fights for cs between the support and the adc and the usual crap.

I played normals all year. I'm trying to play ranked now. It is a completely different game. Ranked is so much faster and even in lower elo, I'm seeing people use sweepers and buy actual wards - something I'd rarely seen in low-elo before. All of these normals games HURT me as a player. They didn't help me.

Ramen2261 votes

Yeah normals... isn't league of legends. And personally I think that starter bundle in the store should just be the champions everyone is given in the beginning so that blind pick doesn't have to be a thing.

Marshbouy1 votes

The real issue is the normals experience for <level 30s.

Ramen2261 votes

Yeah I've talked to a few peop[le who have had this experience

lmao these kids are already bum rushing this post. -1 in less than a few minutes.

Marshbouy1 votes

Norms is ass for anyone sub 30. The only thing that got me through it was duoing with friends every day for a few hours during the summer.

Ramen2261 votes

2 of my friends stopped playing league pre 30 because this kept happening with them.

I wonder how much business riot loses because they don't want to make the game more beginner friendly in any sense of the term.

Rewt1 votes

Silver MMR but doesnt play ranked player here telling you that the Normals Experience is actually fine.

I dont think the matches are really ever low quality. Ive never seen these issues that people talk about. I mostly do duo/Trio Que with the occasional Quad que and rare 5 man. And we only play norms. (The highest ranked person was like Gold 4 at their peak)

Norms arent as bad as you say. They are sometimes imbalanced but that means that you should try harder to win. You SHOULD play norms like ranked and therefore playing against higher elo is good practice for when you get those weird Ranked MMR games where your highest rank is a Bronze 4 and their lowest is like plat 5

Ramen2261 votes

You're probably the first or second person to say they've just never had a problem with normals experience.

And although I understand the concept of you have to play to win in order to win, the difference between ranked and normals shouldn't be that I have to play against better players. The matchmaking system is fundamentally screwed up if I have to go into a ranked queue to reliably try new stuff out.

And you say that you most commonly queue with multiple friends, I don't. And i'm aware that if i wanted to pull up a 5 man queue and play normals i can do that and probably get a better experience. I've done that before, and as soon as i went into ranked it was an entirely different experience. Do I have to go into blinds/aram/twisted treeline just to get a feel for a new champion before going into ranked? or should I get destroyed in normals by the diamond 3 player that has been diamond since season 3? I don't learn anything from these games unless I spend about an hour after analyzing the game play which i dont have time to do.

Even disregarding me entirely, you're still saying that the entire casual/ beginner playerbase should have how they want to play the game decided for them because you say the matchmaking system shouldn't be changed. I get that you don't find there to be a problem and that's your opinion if you like these types of games. But a crap ton of my friends and people i've had on my team randomly say that they hate the matchmaking system because they feel like they have to be playing there best just to crushed. It's demoralizing and it doesn't promote trying new stuff in normals.

Plus the friends you duo with have pretty low mmr so that's probably why your games aren't that bad. (i checked i was curious)

Rewt1 votes

id say 90% of my games are a trio que with A silver ADC main LilMT. A silver Fill main CaptainCherry. and Me as a silver MMR jungle main.

There usually is 1 plat in our games and we never really notice it lol. He plays just as shit as everyone else. We have gotten so used to it we Call every plat+ player a boosted ape because 90% of the time...... they are....... except for that one challenger Lee sin main..... we got raped

Ramen2261 votes

The platinums in my games usually do well. Significantly better than anyone else in the room. Not every time but most of the time they do. And I have beaten the ones that do go all out. But in my experience there is a definite correlation between their ranking and how well they do in normals. And it just feels like crap when it's constantly fighting against these guys 4/5 games.

A Basic Island1 votes

im unranked and i feel that system is fine

I'm saying this as a normals only player that is much better than your typical bronzie

this gonna be downvoted by people who feel im just a bronzie

Ramen2261 votes

Not really. It's just me and almost everyone I know have had a pretty crap experience with normals since dynamic queue was implemented.

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