What is this community hypocrisy bullshit on the boards?

Elohaven··9 votes·1,497 views

Warning: This is a sensitive topic and the foul language used is simply meant as a method of emphasis. It is also meant to connect with players with a dialogue they are used to. I also wish you read the entirety of this post before judging as several points are here.

Warning 2: I do not wish to insult any players. If you are offended, then I apologize.

I guarantee 98% of this community are fucking metaslaves and followers. Nobody thinks for themselves and let's the OP overwrite their brains for them.

"He wrote a whole essay. Hm. Evidence. Makes sense. Huh, 7 upvotes? Must be a good idea. I can't get shit on if I support it and the majority who'll go with my side will defend me. Cool. Now the majority can dominate the minorities with ideas."

That's the mindset of some players and it's a dumb mentality.

Screw the support Nunu drama going around. You guys aren't even remotely thinking about both sides on the posts.

The issue is that a majority is shutting down posts that are being brought back again. The difference is the elo of the player and their fame on the boards. Here's an analogy.

Yes, it is true that a Challenger player can give MUCH better information than a Bronze player. However, a Challenger player may have godlike mechanics and mediocre game knowledge. A bronze player may have godlike game knowledge but shit-tier mechanics. This analogy is prevalent in League's community today and actually exists within itself.

So how does this connect to the boards?

People are judging posts based on one's elo, popularity, and impression but even an idiot can realize something a genius may never will. It's called diversity, differentiation, and ideas. A community is a bunch of unique individuals with many different ideas. That's how we flourish. People here are so blind and lazy to think about their actions on a minute-by-minute basis that it creates this aura of ignorance.

This applies in real life too. It's impossible to get rid of this but it is something to remind people of.

People are afraid of change and like to stay comfortable in their current state. E.G. A valedictorian may feel the educational system is perfect because they got accepted to Harvard and they worked for it. It may be true they worked for it but it's also true they may have had opportunities/advantages others didn't such as a higher financial status. Now, when someone of lower status talks of change with valid claims and the valedictorian comes to deny them, the majority will follow the valedictorian while ignoring and mitigating the other's thoughts.

We can apply this with the Nunu support case, Singed support case, the urf complaints, the infernal drake posts, the Dr Sona x Rubick influence drama,and much more.

I honestly feel sad for Riot sometimes. Yes, there are really stupidly ignorant actions they take but compared to how bad this community can be at times - I can't blame their actions.

Then people complain, Riot doesn't listen to our points or about how this point has already been posted. Then make a 180 when someone with influence posts or something they want happens.

Damn...

35 Comments

Inari Fox Orrion2 votes

"People are being stupid and voting on elo and popularity instead of their own ideals. and are unwilling to accept that maybe, just maybe, a person lower-down than they are could have come to a realization they haven't."

I upvote what I see fit, and downvote what I see fit. It works, gets my opinion across without imposing it onto them, and at the same time expands my own view on the subject.

Eedat4 votes

a Challenger player may have godlike mechanics and mediocre game knowledge. A bronze player may have godlike game knowledge but shit-tier mechanics.

Lol so much nope

SithesisLord4 votes

Actually, that´s entirely possible. Unlikely, but very much possible.

Eedat3 votes

No its not.

Elohaven1 votes

It's an analogy. Perhaps a poor one so here's another.

A teenager may be young and naive about a majority in the world but they know more about engineering than an adult. The adult may be a highly esteemed CEO of an industry but doesn't actually know how to build machinery mechanically.

Both have their strengths and one is of lower status - the point is one specializes in a region the other is weak at. However, they may not be noted for their strength.

dunder kill3 votes

Thats not how this works at all. In reality a student thinks they know the solutions to everything because they've read it in a book. They think that since they've been told how something works in pristine conditions, it is fact. In reality the student knows nothing about practical real world application and their theories fail when other variables that weren't calculated appear. Reading books only gets you so far before it fails you. Theorycrafting is worthless until proven in real scenarios.

Lets use a real example. Explain to me why Anniebot is Master tier and you're bronze? Annie is not a mechanically difficult champion. She barely requires any real mechanical skill, yet he is in the top 0.6% of players and you are not.

Elohaven1 votes

Then that analogy can't be applied on me since I don't meet the prerequisites if you're referencing mine.

Jorencice1 votes

Your vastly underestimating mechanics.

Like VASTLY.

Dolasaur3 votes

Faker has a stroke and can now only move one finger at a time. He's not getting out of Bronze, but he still has top tier game knowledge.

The other one's certainly unlikely, though.

Eedat2 votes

being physically and mentally disabled is not the same as being stuck in Bronze.

Jesus christ man listen to yourself. You are actually comparing being paralyzed on top of severe brain damage to being bad at a video game. Is this real?

Spicy Rice1 votes

It's getting the point across in an extreme way, but you are refusing to entertain the notion that maybe there are low tier players with amazing game knowledge and theory crafting ability, but shit mechanics.

And in the same way, denying that there may be players who have amazing mechanics, but shit game knowledge.

Dolasaur2 votes

You said "not possible". You did you say "not possible, with respect to people that have the physical ability to improve their mechanics and simply haven't devoted sufficient time to improving".

OP's purpose was to point out that people can have large amounts of information and be able to form valid opinions regardless of their rank. Extreme hypothetical Faker situation aside, are you seriously going to say that there are no people that play League of Legends with physical disabilities that significantly impact their ability to reach a higher rank? Those people have opinions that matter too.

Mecha MaIphite3 votes

I guarantee 98% of this community are fucking metaslaves and followers.

i guarantee 56.23% of statistics used in arguments are made up on the spot

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

I am 67% sure this is correct.

Skelenth1 votes

23% of the internet agree with you

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

"Aw, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. 'Forfty' percent of all people know that!" - Homer Simpson

ZILLAGULA1 votes

Yeah I'm getting kind of tired of Rubick changing his mood every week. "Jhin is so awesome, I love league" Next week "I cannot enjoy league anymore" LIke come on dude, there hasn't even been a new patch.

Not to offend him, him and I agree on quite a few things and he is a good player I suppose.

Ahristocats1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tejs Forfang,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4rhjOgeK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-02-28T22:14:55.352+0000)

"Jhin is so awesome, I love league"

Dude, you realise that when i started t play jhin it was the EXACT same time the lethality patch happened? and that i didn't play enough to see what happened to the game with lethality? you want me to stay on a single mind forever despite wht happens?

Also, Jhin is an awesome design i never took it back, right now he's overpowered but no matter what he's an awesome design and i can say it because i'm not only a jhin main but i main so much champion in this game i have fun playing againt jhin

[{quoted}](name=Tejs Forfang,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4rhjOgeK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-02-28T22:14:55.352+0000)

Next week "I cannot enjoy league anymore" LIke come on dude, there hasn't even been a new patch.

It has been a new patch, that made damage creep worse, teamfighting worse(with lethality, not talking about the patch that tried to fixe it with masteries), tanks even worse because everyone is picking carries with lethality, adc being the same picks over and over

i just don't understand why you would be mad at me for changing my mind at the state of the game when the state of the game itself changed with the lethality patch

ZILLAGULA1 votes

Nonono, don't get me wrong. I enjoy your posts and so on. I'm not mad at you at all, you're a great addition to the boards.

PPPPPPPPPPPP2701 votes

Ok the only thing I can say about the support Singed playstyle is that it actually failed more than it actually worked. It was too easy to dismiss him as successful by a simple win rate and people defended him when more information ended up causing him to fall to low gold. This guy actually has consistency and success with his support playstyle.

Now then again I despise one tricks as it seems you are too reliant on a champion to climb which can be really bad if said champion gets reworked or becomes very popular. Most one tricks that are around these days are outdated champions or very unique kits these days like Singed, Nunu, Tryndamere, Teemo, and Heimerdinger.

This Nunu player managed to adapt to changes from each season and his champion and constantly maintained high diamond rank.

Ahristocats1 votes

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the Dr Sona x Rubick influence drama,

if there is something i learned from this entire thing is that i spent so many time for nothing because what i said was only accepted by "respect" or "elo" instead of people understanding what i meant from a logical aspect

Ralanr2 votes

It's not like everyone treats you based on your rank. I don't.

Edit: at least not 100% anyway.

dunder kill4 votes

No it means "bronze players have godlike game knowledge" and yours is shit. You only get by on mechanics duh

Elohaven1 votes

Then you missed the point.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Well you are the only well known Masters player.

That's gonna get people to respect your elo.

Elohaven1 votes

No, the line meant that people created the whole drama thing because one person was scared you were influencing everything when in reality you were only pointing things out. Then people started to flock and agree.

Nobody noticed that when you comment, there are downvotes at times as well towards your ideas.

Ahristocats1 votes

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No, the line meant that people created the whole drama thing because one person was scared you were influencing everything when in reality you were only pointing things out. Then people started to flock and agree.

i see, this makes sens

{quoted} Nobody noticed that when you comment, there are downvotes at times as well towards your ideas.

yes, like the thresh small buff idea

vOmvbrawfU1 votes

Wut drama? I missed it. Tell me pls.

TequilaZombie1 votes

If that makes you feel any better, I sorta listen to you sometimes because you had the balls to take Darius to the bot lane and made it work. And that's fucking amazing

jaymc11301 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dr Sona x Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4rhjOgeK,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-02-28T22:24:22.208+0000)

if there is something i learned from this entire thing is that i spent so many time for nothing because what i said was only accepted by "respect" or "elo" instead of people understanding what i meant from a logical aspect

Be like me, post on smurf, then it's purely on the merit of what you say and elo doesn't get all tied up in it.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Actually we all know what elo you are, so you may want to make another smurf.

Also your icon is really cool looking. Can't argue with a guy with that as his icon.

jaymc11301 votes

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Actually we all know what elo you are, so you may want to make another smurf.

Also your icon is really cool looking. Can't argue with a guy with that as his icon.

Yeah but...

Well I mean....

Not everyone...

Fack.

SEKAI1 votes

This is off-topic but:

At least have the decency and use "some people" or "a lot of people" or something, instead of spamming "people" in every sentence. That won't work when you're out to say how dumb, lazy and ignorant most of the people supposedly are.

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