New rengar build ( HP/AD )

Elros Thranduil··1 votes·944 views

a diamond2 guy played with this build 2 days ago and he caried single handly. I tried the build, well I found it little weak because simply you arent a tank due to not having any resistances except W give, you dont have enaugh damage to 1 shot . You look lie a tanky fighter but you die quicker than a tanky figter. It should work like a fighter instead of eraser assassin.

Then I thought it's not very good building him this way.

Yesterday I was watching a master elo guy playing rengar (in the client live replay) he had the same build and carried the game.

Today I saw in the twitch.tv a diamond1 guy also played with this build and he carried aswell.

Then I realised simply why, because people think you go fighter instead of assassin so they dont expect the enaugh damage to 1 shot. But your damage output is simply enaugh to delete carries instead of doing in 0.5 seconds. "Gage" passive is also helpfull if you use W after it gives you shield and some bonuses. I don't know man who found this build but I promise you it works suprisingly good.

forgot the mention its top lane rengar build with exhaust.

item 3158 item 3071 item 3748 item 3053 item 3147 item 3036 master elo guy went withitem 1412 instead of dominiks but hi didn't do better than top lane rengar with this build. But it was still decent performance.

5 Comments

AthenasVendetta1 votes

Not a feasible alternative to attack speed, crit, or on hit.... Shit even Ap Rengar would probably do better than that.

Elros Thranduil1 votes

well.... before they invent a.s crit build, everybody including 2.5k elo rengar mains were telling that arpen build was the best and a.s crit one is shit. Now? Who the hell builds him arpen anymore? Nobody? Thats what I thought. :)

AthenasVendetta1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Elros Thranduil,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4qTREGNY,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-09-27T16:43:04.213+0000)

well.... before they invent a.s crit build, everybody including 2.5k elo rengar mains were telling that arpen build was the best and a.s crit one is shit. Now? Who the hell builds him arpen anymore? Nobody? Thats what I thought. :)

If you cannot understand why they were... Then I would recommend you read the builds posted and more importantly WHY they are better than others. In the case of the FLAT ARMOR PEN ERA, it was simply because the average ADC or AP CARRY was below the max armor pen achievable through those items and masteries. If I remember Correctly I was able to reach 90+ FLAT ARMOR PENATRATION at level 11 as Rengar.

Your end question.... Like do you even logic bro?

Lets review your proposed build:

item 3158 item 3071 item 3748 item 3053 item 3147 item 3036

5% stacking to 30%, flat 10, and another 45%... Billy Mays voice BUT WAIT THERE IS MORE!

You have forgotten the masteries! Depending on the mastery selection you could add 0/0% or you could add 0/7% or even 13/0.

Who the hell builds ar pen anymore? indeed.

lets see current builds that I can recall even though I have not been playing him consecutively or recently:

Crit:item 1400 item 3087 item 3046 item 3158 item 3031 item 3033 and then you can sub your boots out for item 3508.

Your proposed build is trash. and as it stand would not hold a feather against other junglers, or builds.

Elros Thranduil1 votes

its a fighter rengar build not an assassin. Its about the using W smartly and you basically get a huge hp with decent damage with at least little usefull resistances. Current W work as a really little dmg supply, a champ with 1800hp which gains more ar/mres depending on hitting X champs is actually useless. With that build W works how it was supposed to work. I am not telling that build is Op, instead of just calling it useless you could have shared your thoughts just like you did after I touched you little. As I already wrote, I found that build weak too, but I keep seeing rengars playing with it and they do perfectly fine, im plat noob so I actually think I cant know better than master elo or dia1 elo players but I just try to understand why they fallow this build instead "1shot" one, I need help, this is why community exist-sharing the ideas, thoughts-.

btw do you know who boxerpete is?

he is the best tryndamere player in the NA and currently known in korean league too, basically all the tryndamere mains fallow him, respect him, and listen him. Because he is the tryndamere. He invent the %40 cdr build on tryndamere, before him pro players were telling CDR is useless on tryndamere then what happened? He just reached the challanger with spamming his own tryndmare build. Guess what, according to champion.gg, %40cdr build is the most common one and has the highest win rate above all the ranks. Thanks to pete.

Now goldenbiscuit just reached the challanger with playing tryndamere(euw) and his build is tank tryndamere and HE NEVER GETS IE on tryndamere. Can you imagine him not having IE? He plays with warlord's bloodlust and do everything opposite what pete says, his build and playstyle is known as useless on tryndamere across the whole continets. WHAT HAPPENED NOW? he just said fuck off to all the LoL players, let his own build talk, and reached the challanger.

what im trying to say, sometimes we gotta understand whats going on and find our own builds, playstyles. You just fallow what pros do, hydra was useless on rengar untill dekar bought it, this is what im trying to say. you are just one of the guys who fallos what others do, and this is why you will never rank up or become the best, you just gonna stay there because there will be always some people up on you who you fallow and coppy their playstyles.

im done bro.

AthenasVendetta1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Elros Thranduil,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4qTREGNY,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-28T00:08:52.864+0000)

its a fighter rengar build not an assassin. Its about the using W smartly and you basically get a huge hp with decent damage with at least little usefull resistances. Current W work as a really little dmg supply, a champ with 1800hp which gains more ar/mres depending on hitting X champs is actually useless. With that build W works how it was supposed to work. I am not telling that build is Op, instead of just calling it useless you could have shared your thoughts just like you did after I touched you little.

As I already wrote, I found that build weak too, but I keep seeing rengars playing with it and they do perfectly fine, im plat noob so I actually think I cant know better than master elo or dia1 elo players but I just try to understand why they fallow this build instead "1shot" one, I need help, this is why community exist-sharing the ideas, thoughts-.

"well.... before they invent a.s crit build, everybody including 2.5k elo rengar mains were telling that arpen build was the best and a.s crit one is shit. Now? Who the hell builds him arpen anymore? Nobody? Thats what I thought. :)"

I did share my thoughts. You responded with the above. Now this being said, you think its weak, yeah? So explain why. Then ask for input. You posted your opinion of a build and wanted what? Confirmation? You are getting a discussion of which you cannot handle?

Your rank has little to do with anything here. Finally the root of the original post does come out. I'll sum this up for you:

"You wish to try to understand why some players are favoring this over other potential builds?" Yeah?

Lawl.... Okay so you say:

"what im trying to say, sometimes we gotta understand whats going on and find our own builds, playstyles. You just fallow what pros do, hydra was useless on rengar untill dekar bought it, this is what im trying to say. you are just one of the guys who fallos what others do, and this is why you will never rank up or become the best, you just gonna stay there because there will be always some people up on you who you fallow and coppy their playstyles."

Perhaps you should go through my Khakix average builds? Eh? Because that build is mine. I can rank up but you want to know something? I really don't like playing the game alone. Second you assume so much....

http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=ELROS+THRANDUIL http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Orbitalightning

I care very little for my rank... What I do care about is always trying my best regardless of picks, roles, disadvantages. And this is something I love seeing in others their improvement. So I rarely, extremely Rarely play ranked alone.

I copy no one, have I played against diamonds and higher? Yes. With them? Yes. Even won games down a player with them. have I had my ass handed to me by one? Fuck yes. But it is a challenge I relish and like. You bring your rank out and flaut it why? Go fuck yourself dude. [slayer-jinx-catface]

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