Do you rush Ludens Echo on any champions?

warpenguin555··1 votes·5,723 views

Havent been playing much since the last patch, so im not sure here

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Vaelix2 votes

Oddly, Brand..

Gives him better wave clear without more casts. (As brand I typically do not build into my resource as I cannot stop myself from getting Torment / Void Staff early.) Brand loves more AoE Damage. Has alright ratios for the +120 AP. Really likes likes the extra MS due to no mobility but high base MS.

It applies Torment on things it hit, even if his spell didnt actually hit that target, refreshes torment, and procs off his passive doing damage if you build it to 100% while running / etc while the passive burns.

All in all as a season 2 onward Brand 'Main' / player.. its become my new favorite item for him.

ABlueQuaker1 votes

Haven't used it personally, but it seems like it should be purchased on the likes of Ahri, Kat and LeBlanc as an alternative to Lich Bane for burst-oriented AP Champions who have no need to Auto-Attack (as opposed to champions such as TF, Akali or Diana).

Getting it as well as Lich Bane, too, would leave you with an unbalanced build.

You generally want Boots, Deathcap, Zhonya's, Void Staff, Morello's/Athene's and then one situational item (e.g. Abyssal, Banshee's, GA, Luden's, RoA, Tear, Lich Bane, Nashor's Tooth, Hex Core etc) on AP Mids.

Hard4Hamsters1 votes

I would say that it's still good on TF later if you don't build a CDR/Mana Regen item. Lich proc + Yellow Card + E proc + Luden's passive = shit loads of burst damage. He also does well with MS. He really doesn't need Mana regen, it's more of a luxury. So as an alternative to a regen or defensive item, I can see it. Additionally I want to throw in Kassadin as a user of this item. Rod of Ages, Zhonyas, Void Staff, Lichbane, and Luden's. He gains stacks on Luden's quickly with Riftwalk (distance traveled + spell cast) so it might be a good addition to his damage output, but you would have to sacrifice Deatcap or another item.

Hard4Hamsters1 votes

I can't see it being rushed on anyone right now. Katarina is one of the few who potentially could as a resourceless champion, but other options are better in most circumstances. (early penetration or abysall against ap or a seeker's into a zhonya's against ad but most champions will benefit more from getting an early Mana sustain item over Luden's. Champions who would rush DFG won't benefit the same amount from rushing Luden's for kill pressure, so yeah. Prolly don't rush Luden's on anyone, but it can be useful for certain champs later in the game.

ABlueQuaker1 votes

Yeah. It's more of a 3rd/4th item purchase after Boots, Morello's and Void Staff/Deathcap.

Bears Dont Care1 votes

Leblanc and karthus use it but its their 3rd item. Leblanc wants morello and karthus wants seraphs before.ludens.

Prbably want a rabadon or zhonyas before.luden too

RogueWill1 votes

It shoudl stack pretty well with Cassiopeia since she would be able to charge it several times on a battle. She probably can get 2 proc on a skirmish if it was previously charged and around 4 or 4 on a teamfight since every spells add 20 charge.

The Queen Viper1 votes

The problem with Cass however is, that she has no room for that item really... and it's not that good on her anyways. The item is quite a lackluster compared to what else you could get with the Large Rod, meaning item 3089 and item 3157 which both are better on Cass than the Luden's Echo.

Poptart Evelynn1 votes

On kat yes.

Darth Pixy Misa1 votes

I sort of rushed it on Lux, and i dont know if it was worth it. It helps wave clear, and gives Ap and ms, but Lux still has mana issues, that have to be delt with early. I wasnt sure about rushing it, so i went dorans, pots, forbidden idol, wisp, large rod, Ludens, morolello, zhonyas then the game ended.

SpongebobIsLife1 votes

I rush it on Katarina. It gives you great ganking potential, waveclear, and great burst.

Volt Cruelerz1 votes

Apparently rushing it on Veigar works fairly well.

1011001110001 votes

I rushed it on Teemo in ARAM. Shit was hilarious. I found out that Luden's will proc if any of his shrooms are hit, so if they hit one, you can hit R-W and run around really quickly and pull off a 2nd Luden Shroom in a row during a game if you're quick.

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