Is it worth building armor on Veigar vs AD comp?

ThePikol··1 votes·792 views

I was facing Zed. Enemy also had Jinx and Xin. Is it worth building Tabis and Zhonya? Zed will have more lethality than I ever will have armor. So should I stick to magic pen and AP build?

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PhantomGG2 votes

first off, Veigar is a champion who has the luxury to be tankier than the average mage. Why?

Because of passive ap build up.

However you do have options where you don't need armor. Rod of ages is perfectly fine, Zhonyas is great, and if late game if you truley feel u need more armor, no one will flame you if you have ninja tabis and something else like omen.

ThePikol1 votes

Yes I know. My question is: is building tabis + Zhonya vs Zed a good idea if he will penetrate my armor any way? Does it give me noticable surivability (apart from Zhonya stasis of course)? Or building AP and magic pen to kill him before he can kill me a better option?

PhantomGG1 votes

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Yes I know. My question is: is building tabis + Zhonya vs Zed a good idea if he will penetrate my armor any way? Does it give me noticable surivability (apart from Zhonya stasis of course)? Or building AP and magic pen to kill him before he can kill me a better option?

Ohhh so your basically asking if the armor stats are worth sacrificing ap stats. My bad.

Yes, but only if 4/5 people on the enemy team are AD and heavily auto attack reliant. All though you should always build zhonyas in a game against champions like Zed or Syndra, the active to allow you to dodge ultimates is simply god tier.

Final Spark Lux1 votes

This one time our team was vs a tank veigar, and we thought it was funny and he seemed completely useless. 30 mins rolled around and he was one shotting us while tanking the entire team. As the other guy said, it's because his passive AP. You can build literally anything, and if you farm well enough, youll still be relevant. Building tabi / zhonyas is still gonna block a good chunk of damage. The lethality doesnt go through as much as people think. Just a tip, use hourglass as he ults you. Itll put his ult on CD and you wont get marked, so you wont take damage. Its more effective than using it before his mark goes off since chances are you probably took a good chunk of damage from him beforehand.

Michael7021 votes

You're Veigar. You counter Zed. If he Rs, just E and 100-0 him.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

With the lethality rework, you don't really have that much reaction time so your reflexes has to be on point.

Michael7021 votes

Zed will always appear behind you when he Rs. Just drop E directly behind you and blast his ass.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

Oh yeah. I forgot about that. My bad.

Muzét1 votes

item 3089 item 3165 item 3135 item 3742 item 3110 item 3047 There you go.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

Veigar has a base armor of 23-86 lvls 1-18

if you take 9 flat armor seals, get ninja tabs +30 and zhonya's 45 armor will be a total of 84 bonus armor

combined you have a total of 170 armor at lvl 18

lethality is based on the champs level that has lethality not yours 0.4X + [((0.6X * Y)/18) X being the amount of lethality Y being their level

he has item 3142 item 3147 and he has lethality marks for +14 so 18+18+ 14 50 lethality

but at lvl 18 its just flat damage so you have 170armor -50 for 120 armor so armor would still be effective

the issue is gonna come when they have lethality + % armor damage

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