Can get as much healing as a Soraka and the damage and poke of Syndra. She has no weaknesses and is the best catch all support for any non specific comps. I'll just take the rest of my champion pool and dump them in a fucking fire.
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Putting damage on her was a mistake. Nerfing her healing did nothing but reinforce the full damage build.
And side note your "update" to Leona was a fucking joke too.
Guyy Fieri6 votesSona has zero Cc pre 6 and even at 6 it's on a long cooldown. Other than Zyra I believe Sona has the lowest base health. She is quite easy to gank and a little harder to gank for. She's mana hungry early and makes the player choose between poking or sustain. While maybe the numbers are a little overtuned, that's what makes her strong, not that she can do everything as you put it.
Friendly Ram2 votesZero hard CC pre 6 power chord gives her a damage reduction and a slow. not trying to be nitpicky .
sheldonbunny2 votesNot to mention she has absolutely no CC pre 6
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Sona has zero Cc pre 6
POWER CHORD – TEMPO: Power Chord Slow icon slows its target by 40% (+ 6% per 100 AP) for 2 seconds.
Someone obviously isn't well versed in how Sona's powercords work if you're saying that.
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Zero hard CC pre 6 power chord gives her a damage reduction and a slow. not trying to be nitpicky .
No, i'm right there with you with nitpicking. I had the same thought.
Guyy Fieri2 votesok sorry i forgot a word my bad
Çhåryzård2 votesNot to mention she has absolutely no CC pre 6
POWER CHORD – TEMPO: Power Chord Slow icon slows its target by 40% (+ 6% per 100 AP) for 2 seconds.
Someone obviously isn't well versed in how Sona's powercords work if you're saying that.
No, i'm right there with you with nitpicking. I had the same thought.
A slow isn't gonna do shit for you when you have a Leona, Thresh, or BLitz on your or your adc's ass, or the jg comes to gank you pre 6
has a stun
has a snare
has a silence/snare
has a stun
has a stun
has a knockup
has her ribbon thing that stuns if they don't get away (idk what you'd call that)
has a polymorph
has a snare
has a root
has a slow
It's not gonna do crap for you or your pal down botlane if one of you gets CC'd
It's good for slowing people down, not for actually helping you once you get engaged on
All of those poke/utility/damage supports have some form of hard CC to protect themselves and the adc. Sona has nothing but a slow until 6, meaning her and her adc are extremely vulnerable to hard engage pre 6. If you yourself get grabbed, you either burn something important, die, or hope the adc does enough to defend you
sheldonbunny1 votesA slow isn't gonna do shit for you when you have a Leona, Thresh, or BLitz on your or your adc's ass, or the jg comes to gank you pre 6
It's not gonna do crap for you or your pal down botlane if one of you gets CC'd
It's good for slowing people down, not for actually helping you once you get engaged on
All of those poke/utility/damage supports have some form of hard CC to protect themselves and the adc. Sona has nothing but a slow until 6, meaning her and her adc are extremely vulnerable to hard engage pre 6. If you yourself get grabbed, you either burn something important, die, or hope the adc does enough to defend you
Someone missed the point. Speaking in absolutes is walking on thin ice if it's not 100% true. I simply corrected you both. Wasn't debating the rest of the topic, silly. :P
That said, out of that list, only two that even give me issues is Karma and Zyra. The rest were easily dealt with, and this was before her update, as well as after. End of the day it matters who is aggressive and knows the ins and outs of their champion and how to apply appropriate pressure. Of course i'm also that pitbull AP Sona that drives enemy botlane to farm under tower so I stop ripping them to pieces...
Çhåryzård2 votesSyndra Q - 50 / 95 / 140 / 185 / 230 (+ 75% AP)
Sona Q - 40 / 70 / 100 / 130 / 160 (+ 50% AP)
Her Q does less damage than Syndra's.
Sona W Heal - 35 / 55 / 75 / 95 / 115 (+ 25% AP)
Nami W Heal - 65 / 95 / 125 / 155 / 185 (+ 30% AP)
Soraka W Heal - 80 / 110 / 140 / 170 / 200 (+ 60% AP)
She heals less than both Nami and Sona.
Sona is probably the squishiest support....literally just CC her and she burns an ult, summoner's, or dies. Not to mention she has absolutely no CC pre 6, whearas Nami, Soraka, Morgana, Zyra, Annie, Blitz, and Thresh all do. If she gets caught she's dead or down spells.
I main and I don't usually have problems against her.
Someone sounds salty.
Xeruon1 votesHer Q does less damage than Syndra's? Hmmm...why might that be?! Because Syndra is a Burst Mage, and Sona's a support? Nooo... can't be.
Honestly I dunno how people can take themselves seriously while typing stuff like this.
Çhåryzård2 votesCan get as much healing as a Soraka and the damage and poke of Syndra.
That's when I started laughing --^
Reikken1 votesSyndra Q - 50 / 95 / 140 / 185 / 230 (+ 75% AP)
Sona Q - 40 / 70 / 100 / 130 / 160 (+ 50% AP)
Her Q does less damage than Syndra's.
You forgot the other part of Sona's Q:
Bonus Magic Damage: 20 / 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 (+ 20% AP)
Add them together and you get: 60 / 100 / 140 / 180 / 220 (+ 70% AP) which is basically the same as Syndra's Q
Syndra has 3 damage skills though (not counting ult), so the OP is still wrong.
Çhåryzård1 votesYou forgot the other part of Sona's Q:
Bonus Magic Damage: 20 / 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 (+ 20% AP)Add them together and you get: 60 / 100 / 140 / 180 / 220 (+ 70% AP) which is basically the same as Syndra's Q
Syndra has 3 damage skills though (not counting ult), so the OP is still wrong.
I was just including the actual ability's damage, the augmented auto only happens after any 3 abilities and isn't actually an ability itself, but yea still Syndra still does more damage with her entire kit, because she's a midlaner....not sure where OP was trying to go with this thread but I think they lost to a Sona and are salty about it
Reikken1 votesI was just including the actual ability's damage, the augmented auto only happens after any 3 abilities and isn't actually an ability itself
No, I'm not talking about her passive, Power Chord. That does much more damage. I'm talking about just her Q. Her Q itself empowers her next auto (and that of allies in range) to do a little extra damage.
but yes, I'm just correcting errors. None of this is really relevant to the topic. Not that the topic has any merit in the first place.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesso your talking about a passive that she has to cast 3 spells to empower and then cast Q for the proc? really we are talking about a stacking passive. A PASSIVE? who scales better with damage or 
? it issue is the bonus procs from 
and Thunderlord's. that stacked with an empowered / power cord Q is what hurts, but sona dont stack alot of ap either.
if you were to go 0-18-12 she gets zero ap from masteries. if you run flat magic pen reds, armor yellows, ap quints, and mr blues, she has 15 ap at lvl 1 and she gets a 
to allow her to have 20 ap so her Q would do 40+10(50%ap) for 50 magic damage. then if you want to include power cord her Q would do 40+10(50%ap)+20+2(20%ap) would be a total 72 magic damage. and if your adc in lane vs her and you took zero MR runes you would have a flat 30 mr. so lets include her magic pen from runes 8 flat pen. 30-8 + 22 MR. 72magic damage -22mr= 50 magic damage. typical adcs at lvl 1 have 615 hp with 
and normally take flat mr runes which is +12 mr. giving them 42 mr. ( our you should vs a poke lane like zyra/sona/lux/brand ect)
lets take sona's damage which was 72 magic damage vs the adc stats of 615 hp, and 42 mr. 72 magic damage - 42 mr = 30 magic damage to adc who has a 615 hp 615-30magic damage (after mr which would be consider "true damage" ) would leave adc with 585hp in lane after sona procs Power chord Q and if you include the proc from which gives 10 bonus damage and lets say she procs thunderlords as well would be 10 per lvl + 10% of Ap which is 2ap so we are looking at an additional 22 damage?
YES BETTER NERF HER DAMAGE , SONA IS BROKEN!!!
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
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so your talking about a passive
No.
Athenes Lulu2 votesGood by:
Someone help me explain this.
Handy Sandy 1 votesTbh sona is a no skill champ, since all her skills are giant circles allies walk in. Nami is a pretty good support, her movement speed help to dodge things (veigar event horizons..) or catch up to low health enemies. Her heals are pretty good also and her ult is harder to dodge and gives allies more movement speed.
Valenficus1 votesSona is squishy which is her only down side what i don't understand is why u thanking Riot for making the most broken suppourt :) AND YOU SHOWING RIOT WHY THEY SHOULD NERF SONA xD that's funny. Yours Sincerely: SonaNeedsToDieSoon
Fashion Mage1 votesPretty sure he's being sarcastic.
Arakadia1 votesSounds like you don't actually like Sona your just calling her broken.
Immobility, squishieness, only CC being an ult, high mana costs, and bad wave clear are all weaknesses.