What Graves reworked passive should have been.

stealthfox94··2 votes·426 views

" Every 4th attack Graves deals bonus damage and fires 3 bullets in a short ranged cone " ( The damage wouldn't be as high as it is now ) This would have kept him viable bot lane without making him obnoxious top and jungle. I miss the old Graves.

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Thin Air1 votes

Give him an old ability every 4th attack? Nah. I really like his new mechanics, but it's mostly really just the free tankiness he gets. He does a lot of damage, but if he couldn't get crazy tanky on top of it and punish melee champions for coming into melee range so hard I really don't think he'd be as big of a problem.

His current kit gives him a clear identity separate from the other ADC's which is what Riot wanted, but it's made him crowd out a lot of other choices, because he is very strong at multiple things at once, instead of being very strong in one area and sort of strong in others, while also having clear weaknesses. He doesn't have a lot of weaknesses outside of his range, and he has several ways to fix that.

stealthfox941 votes

I just don't like how he's been taken out of bot lane he use to be one of my primary adc's.

Thin Air1 votes

I understand that, but that doesn't mean that he should get back his generic ADC kit that is almost exactly the same as everyone else's, but everyone else can do his job better. That was kind of where he was at before. He can still be in the bot lane with the right support though, you just have to make sure the other team's ADC/Support doesn't have crazy range that can poke you out of lane every 2 seconds.

The point of the marksman update was to give marksman clear identities and try to move them outside of only being in the bot lane. Riot has stated a lot that they are trying to make other types of champions be able to go into the botlane without severely outclassing ADC's or without ADC's outclassing them.

Graves is fine where he is at, he has a shotgun and shoots a gun that works like most people feel a shotgun would and should. Sometimes that happens to our favorite champions and they move to other lanes or roles that we don't like. Even though he was (and possibly still is) overtuned. I don't think he's nearly as bad as he used to be, the complaints and problems that I've seen about him have died down a lot, but he's in a much better position now then he was when he was in primarily in the bot lane.

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