10/10 meta Pick Kleptomancy + ranged/gp top or lose toplane. 10/10 10/10

Poske··2 votes·2,993 views

How moronic you have to be to introduce this RNG ABOMINATION INTO A GAME AND MAKE IT FAVOUR RANGED CHAMPIONS 6X TIMES MORE

Not Q-ing for toplane as secondary anymore. fk THIS fk Ranged favorism and FK BALANCE TEAM

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Poske1 votes

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sooner or later this ll be your reaction to upcoming toplane meta

Raoul2 votes

might I say that i find it hilarious that you claim the system would favour ranged champions and then you bring GANKPLANK as an example in the comments? xD

Poske1 votes

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might I say that i find it hilarious that you claim the system would favour ranged champions and then you bring GANKPLANK as an example in the comments? xD

Gankplank is basicly a ranged champ.

NocturnalSheild1 votes

Just play ranged? Or yorick.

Poske1 votes

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Just play ranged? Or yorick.

if you cant beat them join them right?

What if my favorite toplaners are all melle just like 90% of toplane

Azadethe1 votes

Raging doesn't suggest you've though Kleptomancy through yet. It has counters, and I have yet to have a Klepto win vs me on a team where I was able to rally my team into playing smart vs them.

Poske1 votes

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Raging doesn't suggest you've though Kleptomancy through yet. It has counters, and I have yet to have a Klepto win vs me on a team where I was able to rally my team into playing smart vs them.

What?

Gangplank hitting trinite at minute 10 despite me not leting him q me is gamebreaking. Idk how to break it to you

But if you pick melee champion for toplane atm you are inting. We are in such meta

Give it few more days low elo plebs and you ll enjoy the same meta

Mysticman891 votes

Wait what? If GP never Q'd you, then he gained nothing from klepto (unless he was AAing you instead which would be odd if he couldn't Q you).

Poske1 votes

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Wait what? If GP never Q'd you, then he gained nothing from klepto (unless he was AAing you instead which would be odd if he couldn't Q you).

WELL I CANT Exactly stay in fountain can I?. I am sure he Q-ed me less times then he wanted

When I Saw trinity + bf + boots completed at minute 10 I got cancer

Azadethe1 votes

I think you need to just realize that top lane is usually for better players. No offense, but unlike other lanes, Top is 1) the only lane that has pure hard counters by 5-6 COMMON picks to every other top laner and 2) is the primary jungle ganker lane.

For example, a Riven has at least 4 natural enemies top, but that's effectively her only meta role. If it's not a GOOD Riven, Garen, Wu kong, Panth, and Darius all make Riven's life a living hell. Riven has almost no counterplay against dying to a Garen, and if Pantheon gets 1 kill, Riven is shut down for the entire lane.

Likewise, Garen has natural enemies.

And i don't mean just hard matches. I mean these are matchups where 9 of 10 games you will lose so hard your team has no choice but to carry you.

Top is basically the only lane where the majority of times, the matchup is decided in Queue, by who gets to pick Top second and who knows counters.

Adc, mid, support, and even jungle don't suffer these problems near as much, because Adcs can outplay relatively, and have supports to supplement their weaknesses, and Jungle is given the opportunity to avoid the other jungler and work around them. Mid champs are more balanced, and usually have pretty reliable turrets to help them if they should have problems.

GP is a lane bully and has been for years. That's nothing new. You need to learn to rely on your team to beat him. If you can't get your team to help, or play a ranged champ, my advice is to leave the lane, farm some jung, and go help other lanes. if you leave, so will GP, and then your team will begin to pay attention to him. If GP doesn't leave, and keeps pushing, your team will still pay attention to him because they don't want to lose their base.

Personally, as a jungler, I enjoy bullying GP, because he's an easy gank. Just have to avoid the barrels, and get him from the right angle to make him run the right ways, and have a peel to escape if he gets dangerous hits in. Usually, his ult will be down, so escape usually isn't hard.

Poske1 votes

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I think you need to just realize that top lane is usually for better players. No offense, but unlike other lanes, Top is 1) the only lane that has pure hard counters by 5-6 COMMON picks to every other top laner and 2) is the primary jungle ganker lane.

At what elo is toplane primary jungle ganker lane ROFL? everything resolves around getting botlane tower

For example, a Riven has at least 4 natural enemies top, but that's effectively her only meta role. If it's not a GOOD Riven, Garen, Wu kong, Panth, and Darius all make Riven's life a living hell. Riven has almost no counterplay against dying to a Garen, and if Pantheon gets 1 kill, Riven is shut down for the entire lane.

Actually good riven shits on darius hard. She shits on wukong to. She shits on garen to. she outscales panth as long as panth doesnt go 3,0 and snowball botlane she should be fine

Likewise, Garen has natural enemies.

Garen is an int pick at my elo. AND I AM DIAMOND1 ex challenger. But hey toplane is for better players

GP is a lane bully and has been for years. That's nothing new. You need to learn to rely on your team to beat him. If you can't get your team to help, or play a ranged champ, my advice is to leave the lane, farm some jung, and go help other lanes. if you leave, so will GP, and then your team will begin to pay attention to him. If GP doesn't leave, and keeps pushing, your team will still pay attention to him because they don't want to lose their base.

Gp is a lategame hypercarry while also a lane bully with clepto support item start. 10/10

Azadethe1 votes
  1. Top lane is almost always the first gank, and the First Blood, because a Bot team 90% Starts red and ganks level 3-4 Top, and a Top Team 90% starts Blue, and works their way top Level 3-4 for a gank. it's the most efficient farm path with the highest level opportunity of success.

Sometimes it's mid because of distance, but Bot ganks are rare, because 1) Gromp takes a lot of HP, making a 3 camp gank of bot from blue hard to do with full HP. 2) They are risky because they often are only a level 2 gank vs people who still have flash, heals, etc, and a wrong move can feed THEM the kills.

Don't get me wrong. Around 5-7, Ganks start to focus bot, but Top is almost always first, and if it's a Teleport top, it's often a DOUBLE gank.

  1. You're wrong. There's a reason Garen is at least 4 TIMES the votes of a counter for Riven than any other champ. His Silence disrupts her chains hard, does chunky damage, and his Spin keeps her stuck in the fight longer than she wants to. She either has to Max E and forgo Q and W, or she literally doesn't have a lane, unless it's a complete nub Garen. Garen is such a strong matchup for Riven, that he can literally turret dive her at level 3, and starve her CS completely up until then.

Pantheon can stun her Q to prevent knockups and it will literally dump her into a position where Panth can do his entire combo, and before Riven is unstunned, he has his Block again. it's not as much a shut out as Garen, but if he gets 1 kill, he has enough lead to dominate the lane for the rest of the lane.

Wu is more even of a matchup, but again.... if he gets ahead by 1-2 kills, he will crap on her.

Darius beats Riven if he combos right. If he Swings, autos on her First Q and waits until after Q is over to pull, he can prevent her E from getting her out, and heal, and already have 4-5 stacks on his passive. if he pulls her E, she has no escape for 3-4 seconds.

  1. He has never NOT been a lane bully since his rework. barrels are intimidating for non ranged champs without a gank. There's two things to consider here: if he is Klepto Q on YOU, he's not Qing his barrels, and not gaining maximum efficiency in his passive gold gains. And, he sucks at closing down kills before he has Trinity, IE, and Essence (50% Crit, double base damage, big crits). If he can close kills down on you, you chose the wrong champs. He's only really dangerous after his Q can do 1200-1600 damage. And by then, if you don't have defense, that's your fault, not his.
Majestry1 votes

Klepto can be annoying, sure, but it's actually garbage if you play around it. You're basically going deep to get nothing but monetary benefits. If it's a ranged V ranged situation, Klepto is unplayably bad unless you're like ez.

Timethief491 votes

Lethal tempo kayle does quite well against him.

Poske1 votes

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Lethal tempo kayle does quite well against him.

Picking non cleptomancy in ranged vs melee matchup is incorrect regardless

Janna Me Fiddle1 votes

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How moronic you have to be to introduce this RNG ABOMINATION INTO A GAME AND MAKE IT FAVOUR RANGED CHAMPIONS 6X TIMES MORE

Not Q-ing for toplane as secondary anymore. fk THIS fk Ranged favorism and FK BALANCE TEAM

Hello my name is Pantheon

Whenever the enemy team picks Gangplank I'm the first port of call

I may not scale well, I may have the worst late game in the game...

But the Pirate can't get free gold and items off me

Because of my passive.

He can't sit back and parrlay for free

Because of my passive

He'll just take a spear to the face.

If he doesn't learn to back away

He goes to the Bakery.

The only good Gangplank

Is a Dead Gangplank

I make this happen.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

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