The new champion....

Bultz··2 votes·494 views

The entirety of the boards has been complaining about the broken state ranged adc. RIots answer? Release what appears to be a hypermobile adc who can be up close and far away and rip you a new one regardless. It's like they fucking take everything we say and completely fucking ignore anyones input.

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Kaioko8 votes

Honestly all the boards do is complain, if I was Riot I wouldn't listen to about 90% of what's on here.

Bultz2 votes

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Honestly all the boards do is complain, if I was Riot I wouldn't listen to about 90% of what's on here.

We complain cause they literally do nothing to fix the problems. it's been months Zoe is still mfkering 1 hitting people. Ranged adcs and supports control to much of the game. Jungle is holding every lane hostage. Like it's been months. There is not listening and then there is just not giving a fuck.

Kaioko2 votes

They're nerfing Zoe basically to the ground after giving her several nerfs nearly every patch since her release.

Ranged ADCs that are actually problematic are getting nerfed. Some items could deserve a cost bump but the actual in game consensus is that ADCs aren't a huge issue at the moment notwithstanding a couple like Tristana (who OMG IS GETTING NERFED).

Jungle is also being looked at which is why they seeing how they can tweak the jungle items upgrades.

Top is also an issue, guess what they are looking at that and how to empower bruisers without making them broken.

Again all the boards do is complain.

Kai Guy1 votes

hi, Define 1 hitting. If it involves ERQ and passive? that's 100 to 0, but not what I personally call a 1 hit. Note that riot has nerfed zoe, consistently . Would you like me to make a list of champions who can 100 to 0 folks in a combo started from a single CC ability in their kit? Swain rework. how many SWAINS TRASH threads did we see? and where did they all go? Not even a single patch before that was proven incorrect. ADC needs to be the most monitored of all 5 roles, why? Smallest... champion.... pool. Some what 18 champs that consistently account for 20% of the champions in each match? Needs to be the most watched role because its pool size makes individual viability very impactful on metas. Its utter ignorance to make a claim that item biased carry's are not core to moba gameplay, In LOL its mostly covered with ranged squishy, In dota, mostly covered by AGI champions. I hesitate to bring the comparison up for the two games, largely because of how itemization differs, the core stats differ (str agi int vs Ad, AP, HP, Armor, MR) As well as the fact jungle is a required must for lol comps but its optional for dota.

The reward for bitching about whats meta to complain about has been so high in its positive reinforcement it seems like people on boards cant take the game at any state and not actively look for issues. Theres no pointing out positives, its always negativity.

OatheSworn1 votes

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hi, Define 1 hitting. If it involves ERQ and passive? that's 100 to 0, but not what I personally call a 1 hit. Note that riot has nerfed zoe, consistently . Would you like me to make a list of champions who can 100 to 0 folks in a combo started from a single CC ability in their kit? Swain rework. how many SWAINS TRASH threads did we see? and where did they all go? Not even a single patch before that was proven incorrect. ADC needs to be the most monitored of all 5 roles, why? Smallest... champion.... pool. Some what 18 champs that consistently account for 20% of the champions in each match? Needs to be the most watched role because its pool size makes individual viability very impactful on metas. Its utter ignorance to make a claim that item biased carry's are not core to moba gameplay, In LOL its mostly covered with ranged squishy, In dota, mostly covered by AGI champions. I hesitate to bring the comparison up for the two games, largely because of how itemization differs, the core stats differ (str agi int vs Ad, AP, HP, Armor, MR) As well as the fact jungle is a required must for lol comps but its optional for dota.

The reward for bitching about whats meta to complain about has been so high in its positive reinforcement it seems like people on boards cant take the game at any state and not actively look for issues. Theres no pointing out positives, its always negativity.

One shot combo. That's rinse and repeat every few seconds. That's almost 100% guaranteed kill against <2,000 health champions if bubble hits. The sleep is 2 seconds. The target hit by the bubble takes extra damage from next attack while asleep. If the bubble misses, it lingers as a mega trap for 4 seconds. Can literally hide behind a wall shooting bubbles until one hits and then R>Q>Q for the finish. Can get Hextech active items before anyone has finished a single item. Basically a free 200+ damage. Can use other people's summoner spells so forget about flashing-to-get-the-hell-away-from-this-ridiculous-champion, she'll pick it up and boom--she's next to you and gets a little bonus damage from using an enemy summoner spell or minion drop active.

Kai Guy1 votes

Blitz is even more OP then. He needs 0 items and he can result in instant death for every champion in the game with a single Q from fog of war. He gets MS steroid to chase you down, has hard CC on 3 ability's, And shields himself for massive amounts when his hp is low if you try to focus him.

OatheSworn1 votes

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Blitz is even more OP then. He needs 0 items and he can result in instant death for every champion in the game with a single Q from fog of war. He gets MS steroid to chase you down, has hard CC on 3 ability's, And shields himself for massive amounts when his hp is low if you try to focus him.

Except he needs his team. Zoe can do solo easily and her kit is designed to pick people off.

Kai Guy1 votes

Blitz kits designed to literally pick players off. You can be a 4k hp tank and instantly find yourself in a 5 v 1 with no help and get CC'ed the entire time of a single Q. Atleast if Zoe lands E some one can body block the Q and keep you alive, way more counter play to Zoe Landing an E over Blitz Q from your teammates. Plus he gets to ER. Zoe solo easy requires her to have items. 0 item blitz troll can still make you die just from QE, his items are basically meaningless because he makes it 1v5 And sets up Chain CC.

(If the lack of logic and blatant bias in my last 2 posts annoyedyou, that's very much what I'm trying for. Be accurate, set more realistic expectations not just the best case usage. Target specifically issues with out exaggerating them, or you sound dam unreasonable.)

OatheSworn1 votes

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Blitz kits designed to literally pick players off. You can be a 4k hp tank and instantly find yourself in a 5 v 1 with no help and get CC'ed the entire time of a single Q. Atleast if Zoe lands E some one can body block the Q and keep you alive, way more counter play to Zoe Landing an E over Blitz Q from your teammates. Plus he gets to ER. Zoe solo easy requires her to have items. 0 item blitz troll can still make you die just from QE, his items are basically meaningless because he makes it 1v5 And sets up Chain CC.

(If the lack of logic and blatant bias in my last 2 posts annoyedyou, that's very much what I'm trying for. Be accurate, set more realistic expectations not just the best case usage. Target specifically issues with out exaggerating them, or you sound dam unreasonable.)

That is exactly why I said, "Except he needs his team." You ignored that part because you realized Zoe can do what Blitzcrank does, but without needing the team to finish them off. I don't see Blitzcrank pulling a Vayne over the wall and killing her instantly with his usual build. The problem with Zoe is her Q just does so much damage. All she had was item 3802 and I as Zed had item 3134 but a single one of her Q did the same amount of damage as my WEQ+Electrocute and this is without her E. If you say, "that's her only damage ability" then sure, not counting her E and W, it is her main damaging ability but for Zed he has to wait over 20 seconds to use his shadow again for a combo that deals the same amount of damage as a single Zoe Q which is on a cooldown for less than a third of that.

Kai Guy1 votes

Your team can body block zoe preventing her from 1 shotting even with a full rotation. Blitz can make any fight 1v5. Thers no counter play vs blitz once that Q lands. Zoe you do have a few more options even after E hits and after that hey your teammates have more options to make a play to keep you alive. Your really missing the point I want to make about its important to not just look to best case usages. There's no reason Zoe should not be rewarded for landing a full combo using QER and passive. There's no reason blitz should not be rewarded for yanking some one over a wall into his teammates. There are some options available when dealing with both champions.

For her Q to hit hard, it needs distance. If you let her land it with just distance and burst ya, that's a bummer and also just a bit your fault.

OatheSworn1 votes

Same with Blitz, teammates can take it for you and if it's someone like Zed, he can easily get out by shadowing the moment he is hit with Q. He won't get pulled and saved a teammate. Blitzcrank Q is also nowhere near the range of Zoe E when she is shooting it out from behind wall and so there is also that. Also, "let her land it" isn't the best thing you could have said, especially since I just talked about her bubble...

Hey h0w r ya8 votes

She has literally one dash

Do you people even read her kit?

Kai Guy2 votes

her R I'm guessing is being used as a mobility spell so she has 2. Ignoring that she has 500 auto range and R puts her into a dangerous range for squishy.

Ralanr3 votes

Champion development takes a long time and doesn’t account for the current meta when finished.

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