Doesn't matter if I beat or get dumpstered by Yasuo, all the games against him are horribly tilting.
I don't think Riot can nerf Yasuo without gutting him because he is so sensitive to small changes. (Warlord's bloodlust, frozen mallet, phantom dancer abuse cases ?) And also because his 'balanced' state is already so unfun to play against.
I think the only way out of this is to rework him.
ThePikol8 votesAgree, Riot is making mistake trying to nerf his numbers. He need a full or a mini rework
SEKAI3 votesAgree, Riot is making mistake trying to nerf his numbers. He need a full or a mini rework
Change his Q. Keep the nado somewhat but change everything else and make it far less spammy. That shit is kinda the source of all agony and balance disaster in Yasuo.
Oh and, fix nado's hitbox.
DrCyanide5 votesI don't know about a mini rework, but they could at least start by making Wind Wall require aiming to use properly. Yasuo throwing up a Wind Wall in the right direction to negate your CC is far less frustrating than Yasuo throwing up a Wind Wall the complete wrong way and negating your CC. With the second, you know you caught him off guard, but poor ability design prevented you from being rewarded for that.
EndlessSorcerer7 votesJust make it spawn at the proper location rather than inside of his model.
It is a simple issue to resolve.
JhomasTefferson2 votesYes. he doesn't need to be gutted. This simple change and removing the base damage from his q would be acceptable nerfs.
Though, he's got nothing but nerfs since his release, both direct and indirect. Maybe people just need to git gud?
EndlessSorcerer1 votesI don't really have an issue with the base damage on his Q.
If they were to make any other change, I'd prefer they change his ultimate so that it won't take any available opportunity to place him outside of tower range.
It is just another unnecessary measure to prevent mistakes.
JhomasTefferson2 votesI'd be good with that too. I think yasuo is generally fine. He doesn't need a rework, and doesn't need to be nerfed into the ground.
Limmie6 votesGut him until his rework. If it's good enough for Urgot it's good enough for him.
Irelia Bot3 votesWouldn't be the first time they did that
Isn't that right Eve and Urgot?
: existence is torment
Limmie5 votesTo say nothing of 
. Dude was even removed from free rotation ffs.
Need Gold 4 Tent3 votes"You will remember Yorick Mori" - oh the irony. The only people who know this quote are the only ones who actually do remember him.
JhomasTefferson3 votesI think he's fine. Maybe, they take the base damage off his q and have it only do the same damage as his other autos.
Git gud, then you won't have a problem playing against him. Nasus in top lane is a good pick against him. Annie in mid lane is another good choice. In jg, any invade jg, like shaco or lee, or even ww and xin.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesHis Q needs the damage boost, or it'd be all but useless except for the tornado (and possible AoE with E). Could it use a nerf? Yes. Is that the right way? Hell no.
JhomasTefferson1 votesWhy does it need the damage boost? I don't think it really does. Let it do as much as an auto. It would still be useful as short range poke. it gives him a cs tool with a bigger range than his normal autos.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesIt needs it or there's literately no incentive to max it. It doesn't have a shorter CD per rank (its CD is entirely based on Yasuo's attack speed), it doesn't gain range or duration you can hold it. The only reason it's maxed first now is because it's his only real damage outside of his ult (which is reliant on his Q).
The other choices are even worse. Maxing E has questionable benefits (.1 cooldown vs .5 isn't much, and most minions don't survive to cast on it again), but his W can be entirely useless in some match ups.
It's just like Draven's Q. An auto-attack boost. Except it only boosts one auto every 1.33-4 seconds. Draven without his Q's damage boost is useless.
JhomasTefferson1 votesThere's already no incentive to max it first. e first has been the norm since s4.
the only time i'd say go q first is in a lane where you'll be skirmishing a lot. the 20 bonus damage per rank isn't much. When you max e first, you get cdr and damage.
Troll for Trump1 votesCounterpick is never viable counterplay, for this game.
The Whamboozler3 votesA rework to make him less of a frustrating shithouse of bad design might be nice. I don't even think the dude is OP... but he is basically a huge "ruin game" button that sucks the fun out of every match he's in... which is every match he's not BANNED in.
PePsiLemoNN2 votesI wouldn't mind if they just gut him lol
Ahristocats2 votesescuse me sir but yasuo has 51% win rate top lane and 49% win rate mid this nerf is going to hit him as it reduces his lane presence
and he's going to go to 50% win rate
so in short: you're wrong
Michael7021 votesGet rid of his shield and I'll be happy.
ZT Xperimentor1 votesObviously a problem of design, they could've limited him more or not given him so much wiggle-room, but instead just added to the list of overloaded champions.
Limmie3 votesThat's because he was originally meant to be a botlane melee adc. He pretty much had to have an overloaded kit to survive there. But the problem is, what he needed to have to be average botlane made him excel everywhere else. That's the same problem with Mordekaiser and why the melee ADC thing was a failed project all throughout.
Trying to balance him with numbers or small tweaks is a wasted effort when what he needs is to be completely redesigned as a proper top or midlaner. His current kit is completely messed up by design, and the sooner Riot realizes that the better for everyone, including for the people who like him.
ZT Xperimentor2 votesPretty much at this point, they need to edge out marksmen just to see how effective melee carries are in the bottom lane with support. Or give their counters better tools to bully them out of top lane.
BoilTheOil1 votespeople be like hur dur good nerf yasuo
GULAG 4 U1 votesBullshit. When his E was nerfed earlier this year, he was fine. He wasn't horribly underpowered. Same thing now.
