Might as well call ziggs spray and pray.

MunchCrunchLunch··3 votes·537 views

Ziggs as a champion. will most likely do more damage than anyone in a game. however. none of that damage is sugical. or targeted. now. i dont mean point and click is what needed. the problem is that. his Q. will not hit anyone unless they are in the distance of a single bounce. which means you will die at that range as you want to be much further. compared to xerath. which has much more targeted damage. lets call it smart damage. meanwhile ziggs. damage is random. here is how you play twitch. (yeah twitch you heard me. god am tired) you spam Q. and ult EW at a team fight. and hope things work out. unless somone puts cc. even morde has enough time to run out of your ult

ziggs is the epitome of shoot and pray you got some luck in league.

i can't sit really back. and poke with Q as its not gonna hit anyone of importance and any half brained chicken can dodge it. but i can't get close and unload a combo like brand because ziggs doesn't really have a combo that makes sense or keeps him safe or is a reasonably reliable one

there is nothing reliable about ziggs. nothing calculated and no learning curve or skill cap or floor to him.

tldr give us more hit box on the bombs. or increase the first bounce max range and make the landing hit box bigger so we feel in control of his damage

people have complained about this a million times and as someone who played ziggs and want him to be a little of a smarter played champion i'd like to see some changes

4 Comments

Athenes Lulu2 votes

You don't pick Ziggs to deal damage to champions.

Your main purpose of picking Ziggs is to waveclear, zone off enemies, destroy towers, and most importantly, objective control.

Not a surprise that his damage to champs is "unreliable".

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

who cares when anybody with a lichbane an aa cancel or trinity force can take down a turret in about a cpl of free waves.

Valor Bot1 votes

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Ziggs as a champion. will most likely do more damage than anyone in a game. however. none of that damage is sugical. or targeted.

Isn't that the point though? Ziggs doesn't really seem like a character that thinks things through before acting. Precision isn't his method, he just wants to lob bombs everywhere and blow stuff up.

From a gameplay perspective, you can't just boil all of Ziggs' success cases down to luck. Now, I'm not an avid Ziggs player by any means but I do know how his kit works. Just as with all skillshots in League, there are some cool 'prediction' plays you can pull off with his abilities. Of course, they're not all guaranteed to hit, but that's just part of mastering that aspect of the game. Not to mention he has his passive which requires a decent amount of skillful play/planning, and of course his W which can be used to pull off some cool chase/escape moments.

I understand where you're coming from but would the precise style of Xerath or Nidalee's abilities really fit the Champion in question? Maybe he doesn't really need any mechanics changes but clarity on the trajectory/functionality of his abilities. Just some things to think about I guess.

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

his damage isn't high enough to justify that

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