List of champions that Riot is going to rework sooner or later

SpecterVonBaren··20 votes·11,859 views

While everyone knows about the big names in the rework bin of Riot, Yorick, Taric, Urgot, I thought I'd make a list of the champions that Riot's going to eventually rework at some point even though they currently aren't nearly as in need of one as those three.

Aatrox Not a surprising one for most people. Aatrox suffers from a lot of issues but his biggest ones are that his kit very much a generic fighter one that doesn't combine together to make a particularly unique playstyle and that he doesn't deliver on the kind of fantasy his lore implies you'd get.

Akali Also probably not surprising. Akali's issues are that she's a very binary champion where if she's good or ahead in a game then she's oppressive because of how simple her kit is and because of how hard it is to get away from her. The only things in her kit that make her really stand apart from others is her passive and her shroud. She mostly just doesn't provide a lot of interesting gameplay.

Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks doesn't have anything that makes him seem like someone to be reworked on first glance, his gameplay is unique and he's not troublesome to balance. His problem is mobility creep. He's a very slow champion that's main damage source requires the enemy to stay within range of him to let him drain their health. His kit probably won't need a change like Poppy or Sion's as he's got things to bring to a team and he doesn't have toxic aspects to his kit. His issue is just that he needs to be modernized to be able to keep up with how the game works now.

Galio

This one also is probably not surprising. Galio is one of the oldest champions and is in need of a story and gameplay update. While he's certainly strong right now when played by someone that understands when to pick him and how to use him, his kit needs to be tightened up and given more focus. He's got crippling mana costs and his kit needs to be given a more defined focus on what he's supposed to be picked for in a teamcomp aside from being good against heavy magic damage teams because of his passive.

Irelia XinZhao

Irelia and Xin I am putting together here as they have similar problems. Like Aatrox, actually even more so than Aatrox, they have kits that are very generic fighter type of kits. Xin actually has potential for interesting gameplay due to his ult and passive, but his challenge passive could be redone to be more interesting for both him and his opponent. Irelia is probably worse because so much of her kit is just a generic ball of stats and Riot has said they wish they could do more with her blades.

Tryndamere

Tryn is a case where he's frustrating to deal with when he's good and completely ignorable when he's not. His crit passive for early level cheese and his main strategy of just splitpushing all game and then running away if the enemy team comes to stop him or just killing the one person they send after him, along with his ultimate allowing him to duel almost anyone, make him frustrating to deal with. However, Tryn also typically doesn't provide much for his team in a teamfight which is why he's used for this kind of strategy.

Swain

While Swain offers a unique kit and he's not unbalanced, chances are that Riot would like to rework him at some point so that his title of Master Tactician factors more into his kit. As he is currently, his kit doesn't take that much thought to use, it's mostly just a matter of judging if an enemy is close enough for you to get all of your spells off on them.

Volibear Volibear also somewhat suffers from generic bruiser problems. His kit is also very binary in what it's capable of as it's designed basically just for, "Run in and hit the enemy a bunch" I don't think it would be too difficult to take the abilities he already has though and work with them to create a kit that's more unique and delivers on the idea of an unstoppable bear that rampages through the enemy lines.

So those are the champions I see as being up for reworks by Riot sooner or later. Keep in mind that just because I say these champs are going to be reworked does not mean that I think they're bad champions or that I think less of someone for playing one of them. I'm just looking at this from how Riot probably sees things. So agree, disagree, or add who else you think is up for a rework in the near future.

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junglerboy1610 votes

Chogath is probably somewhere on their radar, if not for something big then at least a cleanup of his kit. He's very bursty and tanky, but his abilities aren't super refined or distinct outside his ult. I love playing him but I'm pretty sure they think he needs work eventually.

Blitzcrank is probably on the list somewhere out there. His failure case is bad, but his success case is hella strong which makes him overly binary as a champ.

Diana They've said they want to do work on her for a long time, but since she's in a decent spot right now, she's probably off the short list.

DrMundo They mentioned somewhere that they want to do a much bigger scale rework at some point in the distant future to take him more in the "freak of science" direction rather than the "Purple hulk" direction he has now. I don't know what that entails, but it sounds cool.

Evelynn Yeah. Her. She's managed to hide from a rework for a really, really, really long time. She's skirted in and out of the spotlight and has drawn attention but isn't currently slated for work in the foreseeable future.

LeeSin They're just scared of backlash. They also aren't quite sure what about Lee makes him unique, so he's been given a pass. How convenient...

Mordekaiser They just about finished a "rework" for him (poor bloke), but they said several times that they want to do a sion tier relaunch in the not-so-near future.

Pantheon They don't seem to have any plans for him, but they've acknowledged that his laning is a problem, so maybe he's slated way far down the list?

Rammus No matter how strong he is currently, Rammus kit is starting to show its age pretty badly. It is relatively passive and relies too heavily on the actions of his enemies.

Rengar As long as he can still insta-burst a champ, he's going to need work. Stealth plus some of the highest burst in the game (when not abysmally far behind) is inherently toxic, and his last rework fixed almost none of his real issues.

Ryze I'm pretty sure we can agree that his last rework failed badly. He is still either hella OP, or nearly unplayable, and he is still a lane bully with a hyper scaling late game.

Shaco Needs work. They gave him some love in 5.22 with the clone adjustments and miss chance change, but he needs a larger more comprehensive overhaul to really hone in on his mind game centric assassin work without being quite so frustrating for the enemy team.

Teemo He used to be satan, now he's just that annoying guy who pesters you while you farm. He needs a lot of love and a clear direction for what his kit is supposed to be about.

Yasuo Kind of obvious. OP or not OP, he has an annoying overloaded kit which everyone here knows enough about that I don't have to go into detail.

Zilean Still doesn't feel at all like a legitimate "time mage". The extent of his time mechanics are cheesy puns (seriously, the best you've got for an immortal temporal wizard is "time bomb"?) and dull gameplay that basically revolves around "run fast, drop bombs for a stun, keep people from dying". He is extremely bland and really a huge, huge missed opportunity (I'm still dumbfounded that they would create a whole new time travel champion before giving Zilean the rework he deserves).

Zyra She's kind of stuck in between being a support, a classice utility mage, and a minionmancer. Her passive is bad, and her kit needs to prioritize on a few select design aspects so that she feels more cohesive to play as. If you want to push utility mage, emphasize her seed vision and CC capabilities. If you want her to be a minionmancer, improve her capabilities to interact with her plants in a meaningful way outside "use Q for this type of plant and E for this type of plant!" She has a lot of good stuff going on but lacks the focus to really pull it off convincingly.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

I love diana. however she does suffer from problems. which are. she a mage mele champ. well the problem there is that. shes built more towards mele. but you're better building off just the most AP you can possibly get and one combo people with your ult as shes much weaker if you go the hybrid way (attack speed and stuff). her passive doesn't help her at all. its useless. 20% attack speed doesn't even stack with the maximum attack speed. its 20% off base. which i don't understand why isn't it added as a base stats. oh wait. so we don't get extra bonus from extra attack speed. thanks riot. the third attack thing is cool and useful. but thats about it shes extremely binary. while obviously working in one area better than the other.

they just need to fix her passive.

zilean needs a new passive. his ult is one of the best in the game. but it needs something extra. it can't just be guardian angel.

teemo is fine.

shaco needs a little work.

rengar DEFINITELY needs work. the only way. rengar is good. if he feeds early. and even then. hes too weak. hes way too easy to kill. hes cool. but he needs some sustainability. and a little more tankiness.. not tanky. just a little more defense. or just give him better damage scale. because his AA aint good at all compared to other junglers. and his abilities don't scale all that well. all you have is your q.

morde. well. he just needs a complete rework. hes just completely wrong right now.

that bitch from xmen i hate her.

GrReaper963 votes

Shaco Shaco Shaco A little?

Ralanr7 votes

I would argue that Pantheon might get reworked at one point.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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I would argue that Pantheon might get reworked at one point.

Visual updates first.

Ralanr7 votes

Why not tackle two birds with one stone? No point in doing a rework after a visual update since a rework may require new animations.

Phoenix Kotori 6 votes

Some that come to mind

Shyvana Olaf riot comment they might be the next 2 juggernuat reworks at some point.

Evelynn She's been reworked, but it's clear riot doesn't like this current version much either.

Rengar Let's face it's gonna happen, like eve was reworked, but riot didn't like the end result

Udyr I feel like one will happen with his VU whenever... that is... his 4 stances will probably stay, but I'd expect changes to them.

Vladimir Riot **hates **his design, one designer called him the single largest mistake they ever released, so it will happen.

Shen Been confirmed since he's not very ninja-ish.

Crowe Stalker1 votes

Shen is literally getting updated right after Poppy.

ThePartyLeader5 votes

Sooner or later won't every champion get reworked?

SpecterVonBaren3 votes

I suppose its more a level of degrees. Some champs will get major reworks (Like the ones I listed) while others will get smaller reworks like Ashe's and other probably will just get very small tweaks. I don't think Riot plans to ever majorly change Amumu for instance, aside from giving him a different passive, because his kit is unique in how it works and looks and isn't an issue when it comes to balance.

ElJanitorFrank3 votes

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Sooner or later won't every champion get reworked?

Depends on how long the game lasts; there's never been a game that lasted forever.

I'm not going to argue with you that there are champions who currently don't need it, therefore they won't get reworked, that's a bad argument. If the game lasts another 10 years, you can guarantee it'll be a completely different one. At that point, fluid and fun champions can easily become clunky and awkward.

However, there are a LOT of champions in the game, and reworks don't come out all that often. I'd be surprised if every champion got reworked before League dies (by the way, I'm not saying it's going anywhere anytime soon).

And this thread was created because Riot DOES have an official list of champions currently being reworked, the OP is simply putting them onto the boards and stating why; as not everyone has seen the list.

Dalanin5 votes

Nice Try Morello, it was a nice chit chat but i discovered your evil plan to nerf irelia once more.

Spoofghoul3 votes

Sion IS HE A TANK OR A JUGGERNAUT ???

Sion no longer has an identity

Base stats weaker then Mordekaiser, highly unreliable cc and damage. Damage falls off hard as the game porgresses. So much wrong with Sion right now.

Probably not going to be a Sion level rework but the rework didn't do what it needed too, it did not give Sion a identity as a champion, sure lorewise it did, but not ingame.

I think it would be best if he got reworked more towards juggernaut. Abilities can stay mostly the same, i would change the E abit. I would up the damage and give stronger base stats. I would change the w passive, still stacking health but in a different way.

The damage can definitely go up for the unreliability of it.

Blade of Justic1 votes

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Sion IS HE A TANK OR A JUGGERNAUT ???

Sion no longer has an identity

Base stats weaker then Mordekaiser, highly unreliable cc and damage. Damage falls off hard as the game porgresses. So much wrong with Sion right now.

Probably not going to be a Sion level rework but the rework didn't do what it needed too, it did not give Sion a identity as a champion, sure lorewise it did, but not ingame.

I think it would be best if he got reworked more towards juggernaut. Abilities can stay mostly the same, i would change the E abit. I would up the damage and give stronger base stats. I would change the w passive, still stacking health but in a different way.

The damage can definitely go up for the unreliability of it.

They should make him more Auto Attack reliant.

Because right now, him casting and rooting himself because of it is annoying if you're dealing with someone like Fizz, Lee Sin and Yasuo.

Ralanr2 votes

Pretty sure their mobility makes a lot of abilities annoying to land.

Ralanr2 votes

He's a tank. I don't play him to carry, I play him to disrupt the enemy team. He does the job fabulously.

Crowe Stalker1 votes

Honestly Sion can still carry AS a Tank, if you can smash your opponents around enough with Q and R :)

But no seriously, last I played him he was solid against anyone that wasn't stupid mobile like Yasuo / Riven

Ralanr1 votes

Oh I know he can carry, but I just don't play him to carry. The rare times I do carry a game I feel rather surprised though.

SirNewton123 votes

Chogath Really badly needs a VU and his W really badly needs to be fixed :(

Crowe Stalker1 votes

His abilities could use a VU but after the TU I don't really think his models need much of an overhaul, and yea, W is really, really misleading with the AoE it has and that needs to change.

SirNewton121 votes

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His abilities could use a VU but after the TU I don't really think his models need much of an overhaul, and yea, W is really, really misleading with the AoE it has and that needs to change. I'm sorry, but I really don't know this, what's the TU?

Crowe Stalker1 votes

Texture Update: basically they updates his models and nothing else. Everyone got a TU during Season 5, just ask Evelynn and Swain (still need new splashes though)

Jalkan3 votes

Tryndamere will probably not see a rework until Riot is managed by completely different people. His ult, the most "toxic" part of his kit, is an important part of his champion now. Riot has said that there is no way to change that spell while still preserving Tryndamere's identity, so they are just gonna keep him barely viable for the rest of the game's history.

Wind Whistler1 votes

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Riot has said that there is no way to change that spell while still preserving Tryndamere's identity

That's pretty contradictory. They completely changed Sion and Poppy's ultimates.

I7A6X2v22 votes

AND Warwick WHERE IS WARWICK, HE IS THE WORST JUNGLER IN THE GAME BECAUSE HE HAS NO CC AT ALL ! SINCE WHEN Volibear Swain Tryndamere Irelia XinZhao and Galio need reworks?

Blade of Justic12 votes

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AND Warwick WHERE IS WARWICK, HE IS THE WORST JUNGLER IN THE GAME BECAUSE HE HAS NO CC AT ALL ! SINCE WHEN Volibear Swain Tryndamere Irelia XinZhao and Galio need reworks?

Sarcasm, right?

Valexfor15 votes

WW is shit tier, but not for the lack of cc >>

Ralanr17 votes

His ult.

khorney1 votes

taric needs a rework more then any champ you have listed. every one you listed are fine the way they are with the exception of akali i can see her getting reworked, there really isnt anything useful i mean sure akali supp kill laning works well enogh but besides that its hard for her to be relevent in a game

SpecterVonBaren4 votes

My list is of champions that AREN'T on the immediate rework list. Taric, Urgot, Warwick, and Yorick are all champs that Riot has said they plan to rework at some point and that most people understand are on the list for a reason. I wanted to bring up the champions that they'll likely rework that most people don't think about.

khorney1 votes

again akali would be the only one who would merit one, aatrox would be not a rework just adding ratios of sorts, all the champs you have are fine besides who i juts named

SpecterVonBaren3 votes

Just because they're fine balance wise as they are doesn't mean Riot won't rework them.

Valexfor3 votes

Warwick will be reworked, but they said he is not urgent so he can be on that list too (since they could actually rework him during 2017... why must I wait so much for my loved wolfy? ç_ç) but i pretty much like your list ^^.

khorney2 votes

ww is intersting of sorts becuase of his ap scaling and how his ult does magic damage

Valexfor2 votes

Yep, but he could use a rework since he's in an unhealthy state right now, don't misunderstand me, he's my favourite champ, it's just that he need some kind of update.

khorney1 votes

i used to get death fire grasp on him for his ult make it do much more damage

Valexfor1 votes

Yeah I also wanted to try it out, but I never really liked him ap, it kinda sucks that you die in 2 hits... but I've seen some videos of him with luden and damn, that q can become an incredibly strong nuke.

khorney1 votes

well if you go ap your q you go back to full, but i would go ad and just get deathfire grasp as a ap item to 1 shot people with his ult becasue his ult is magic damage, however you cant do that anymore

Valexfor1 votes

I know, but one cc and you're dead... still that DFG ww was awesome...

khorney1 votes

people thought i was trolling with ww when i bought that im like i bought to make his ult do more damage then i built him normally same reason on varus adc i get hourglass instead of ga, does the same thing buyn maske

Valexfor1 votes

People always think strange builds are troll builds... while sometimes this is true, most of the times in the right cnditions they may even be stronger than a normal build. That's why, unless it's totally stupid (like building ap on a champ with no ap scaling) I never really consider them trolls.

Asayake 5150glow3 votes

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taric needs a rework more then any champ you have listed. every one you listed are fine the way they are with the exception of akali i can see her getting reworked, there really isnt anything useful i mean sure akali supp kill laning works well enogh but besides that its hard for her to be relevent in a game

He... said that... Taric is in the list of Champions that need reworks the most.

Better Jungler1 votes

Talon?

he was buried by riot in patch 4.17 by removing his silence.. and they literally havent even MENTIONED him since then. that was in august of 2014.

SpecterVonBaren2 votes

Talon probably will get some sort of rework at some point but I don't think it will be on the kind of level that the others I mentioned will be. Talon's fantasy is pretty easy to get down on in that he's supposed to be the most assassiny of assassins. At most I think he's more on the level of an Ashe rework in that its his passive and Q that will likely be changed with minimal changes, if any, done to the rest of his kit.

Better Jungler2 votes

that minimal change is all he needs i think. his damage is decent i guess, but its not up to par with anyone else in mid lane. his e needs to do a small amount of damage like kats shunpo, and i think his w should provide an ahri-like speed buff whenhe uses it.

sorta how she gains 250 movement speed when she uses her q. he should too with his w.

GrReaper962 votes

They REALLY need to change his passive. Really.

Full Brain1 votes

I can't wait for them to ruin Urgot so I don't play him anymore like Sion and Morde.

Wind Whistler1 votes

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I can't wait for them to ruin Urgot so I don't play him anymore like Sion and Morde.

Oh my god. You mained Sion before his rework? I can't imagine the pain you felt when they reworked removed him from the game. On the other hand, Mordekaiser is still Mordekaiser, they didn't change him that much compared to Sion.

Full Brain3 votes

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Oh my god. You mained Sion before his rework? I can't imagine the pain you felt when they reworked removed him from the game. On the other hand, Mordekaiser is still Mordekaiser, they didn't change him that much compared to Sion.

He is basically the same character if you played him as a tank I guess but I didn't. He doesn't do near the same damage he used to when you build him offensively or have as much surviveability. You could saunter up to anyone and explode them back in the day. I don't play SR anymore(I mained Karthus but played Sion and Morde a lot and they wrecked him partially as well) so their changes to supposedly make characters more viable in different roles doesn't justify anything for me. Sion and Morde were both different and fun to play and now they aren't fun to play for me so I never play them. There is no point to playing a low mobility mid to short range champ without proper stuns or leaps with the way this game is now if they can't do crazy damage. Everyone teleports all over the fucking place and does insane damage now so you can't even be viable outside of ambushes with characters like that.

Wind Whistler1 votes

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He is basically the same character if you played him as a tank I guess but I didn't. He doesn't do near the same damage he used to when you build him offensively or have as much surviveability. You could saunter up to anyone and explode them back in the day. I don't play SR anymore(I mained Karthus but played Sion and Morde a lot and they wrecked him partially as well) so their changes to supposedly make characters more viable in different roles doesn't justify anything for me. Sion and Morde were both different and fun to play and now they aren't fun to play for me so I never play them. There is no point to playing a low mobility mid to short range champ without proper stuns or leaps with the way this game is now if they can't do crazy damage. Everyone teleports all over the fucking place and does insane damage now so you can't even be viable outside of ambushes with characters like that.

Almost no one played him as a tank, lol. Also, when you say he doesn't do near the same damage he used to, do you mean Mordekaiser, or Sion? I assume you're talking about Sion, but I'm not completely sure. I'm just curious, but what about the changes in particular made you stop playing Mordekaiser and Sion? I find the current Sion to be fun, not as a rework, but as a separate champion, because that's pretty much what he is. I don't understand why they had to get rid of the old one just to make an almost completely different champion. Then again, the League community is pretty hateful towards certain champions, as you can see now with Poppy.

Finally, I know by experience that League isn't the only game that gets too crazy with age. Pokemon used to be about beating up eachothers pokemon, but now there's all this extra shit that just makes it so complicated, and I ended up quitting it.

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