If Zed has no counterplay then what is the counterplay to Annie?

Chris Chiaki··2 votes·2,356 views

What does LuxVeigar do against Flash Tibbers?

You can't flash or QSS it since it's instant and you can't bind her since she can flash over it.

She just nukes you and Zhonyas then waits for her 5k Cinderhulk tank with CC to bail her out.

At least Zed doesn't have hard CC that he can always have up and has items to help beat him.

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IcyPepper4 votes

Zed's kit outranges Annie, except for his ult that's just in range of hers.

No counterplay to flash+Tibbers? Sorry buddy, but flash is a universal ability. If she flashes, you can too. If you don't have flash or just don't, you got outplayed (I believe Zed would 100-0 a squishy without flash, wouldn't he?). Think you can't react in time with Twitch reflexes? Now you understand why people don't like assassins. Get item 3102. It's like QSS for Zed to Annie, in exact terms of counterplay.

Also Annie doesn't become untargetable during her ult, then get an escape on top of it with a no resource cost. Remove Zed's shadow and his untargetability, leaving just the damage, and then we can talk about removing the cc from Tibbers.

And you can QSS the cc. You got mobility, Annie doesn't. The tradeoff is you can't QSS the damage. Get item 3102 for her ult for "counterplay," just like QSS for Zed's ult.

SEKAI1 votes

what is the counterplay to Annie?

Her everything except her stun-Tibbers combo?

Vistha Kai1 votes

According to Annie's statistics every idiot can pick Annie and have 52+% winrate.

Counterplay? Hm. "item 2043 her Shroud" "item 3157 her Ult" "Dodge her spells"

Ah, right. We were talking about Annie's counterplay.

"Don't appear on her screen" or "Go AFK"

NoMonku1 votes

Zed has plenty of counterplay. He is an assassin and like all assassins he gets countered as the enemy gets beefy enough to survive his burst. Damage dealers can also get item 3140 or item 3157 and his damage output drops significantly. summoner 3 also hurts him pretty hard if you time it correctly.

Annie has different counterplay to Zed. She is pretty short ranged, so she can get poked pretty easily. Her playstyle is also VERY linear. Outside of her flashing, all she can do is walk towards you and throw down Tibbers. It is effective, but very telegraphed so it should be avoidable. If she catches you from FoW, sure it hurts, but so would almost any other champion. If AP Annie is wrecking you, get item 3102 . If you're an ADC get item 3140 . You can also take summoner 3 summoner 1 summoner 7 summoner 21 if you fear her so much, though outside of exhaust/cleanse, I say they are excessive and unneeded.

Arsames1 votes

News Flash: Zed has the highest counterplay out of all the Assassins in the game.

Nameless Voice1 votes

Stay out of her range when her stun is up. Attack her when it's down. Poke her from outside her range. Keep your health up so that she can't burst you, buy magic resistance if you feel she's a threat.

If she flashes at you, flash yourself to avoid it. If you don't have flash available, use Barrier (a good choice against her, especially for Lux.)

Or ask your jungler to gank until she blows her flash, at which point you are safe from her for almost 5 minutes.

Swampmajikk1 votes

Map awareness is basically the answer to every whiner on the boards... Positioning is pretty huge too.

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