"Shut them down before x minutes"

JhomasTefferson··3 votes·403 views

Is not a viable strat nor is it counterplay.

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A Basic Island4 votes

hello regurgitated janna x rubbick thread

xWaters2 votes

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hello regurgitated janna x rubbick thread

This proves the point that the boards is a popularity contest and only known people's threads get upvoted

UnboundHades1 votes

or this is just a poorly done copy that doesnt deserve upvotes

A Basic Island1 votes

i think it's more of a bandwagon mentality

Someone sees thread thats +3 or 4>"well obviously i agree with that cus im smart.">everyone upvotes

some in reverse

I've seen the same threads posted by different people with no context but one upvoted the other down

Warhammer Titan1 votes

Can you explain a little? This doesnt really provide anything

HaIlMonitor1 votes

I take it you have never went 3/0 vs a Tryndamere , he finishes zeal and gets level 6 and all the sudden you cant solo kill him?

Or have you never seen a Vayne get crapped on in lane and farm it out until 35 and then get a penta?

Now reverse it, that 7/0 Vayne... good luck killing her even if you are a 7/0 Irelia.

Rexxiee1 votes

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I take it you have never went 3/0 vs a Tryndamere , he finishes zeal and gets level 6 and all the sudden you cant solo kill him?

Or have you never seen a Vayne get crapped on in lane and farm it out until 35 and then get a penta?

Now reverse it, that 7/0 Vayne... good luck killing her even if you are a 7/0 Irelia.

The difference is that its a lot easier to go 7-0 on draven than on vayne out of laning phase.

For vayne to get any kill whatsoever or lead IN LANE her enemies have to be horribad.

HaIlMonitor1 votes

She isnt in a solo lane. It could be that blitz or Thresh that sets it up lol.

Rexxiee1 votes

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She isnt in a solo lane. It could be that blitz or Thresh that sets it up lol.

Its even worse bot lane, as she has close to 0 good matchups there.

Shes also palying against an AD + sup combo, and if they are playing with anything with more range than her (like ashe zyra or whatever) then vayne is going to lose 200 hp per ranged creep she tries to last hit.

BlackFlux1 votes

have you ever seen a 0/9 Tryndamere still 1 shot carries and carry the game. an arly shut down doesn't help much. I can destroy a nasus and he can still 3 shot people

HaIlMonitor1 votes

That is the point the op is making, but the logic is flawed. It is the same thing as "pantheon falls off"... Yeah he makes your ADC's time alive fall off... even 45 minutes into the game.

JhomasTefferson1 votes

The way to win against a team that looks like this Nasus top Tryndamere jg Veigar mid Vayne adc Sona supp should not be "win before 20 min."

There shouldn't be any champs who's lategame is so good that they need to be stomped early to win against them

Pippen The Short1 votes

But there are, deal with it. It's just the way the game is sometimes.

Geauxx1 votes

actually it is.

The point of these champs that have godly late game potential is that their early is horrid, take advantage of that and snowball to the point they cant make it to the their late game.

It's commonly said and used in higher elos, so why can't it be used here?

Warhammer Titan2 votes

Thats how it works though, if a champion is lategame then you have to beat them early game to win. If you arnet good enough to be a late game champion as a early game champion, you simply dont deserve that win

Warhammer Titan2 votes

Thats how it works though, if a champion is lategame then you have to beat them early game to win. If you arnet good enough to be a late game champion as a early game champion, you simply dont deserve that win

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

{quoted}

The way to win against a team that looks like this Nasus top Tryndamere jg Veigar mid Vayne adc Sona supp should not be "win before 20 min."

There shouldn't be any champs who's lategame is so good that they need to be stomped early to win against them

If you pick ~3 early game champions that should be an auto win.

Have your jungler gank and use catchup XP to stay even in levels, and start diving at lvl 6. Have top roam mid or mid roam bot if top's a juggernaut, take dragon + get kills. Have jungler camp top and take herald.

ƒrostγ1 votes

You can start making sense any time now.

Pippen The Short1 votes

Yeah it is.

hater free zone1 votes

Yeah it is. I just shut down Nasus top lane before he could snowball. He only had 150 stacks by 30 minutes. He was successfully shut down by x minutes and we won the game.

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