How am I supposed to do this?

Glîtchy··1 votes·538 views

My partners expect me to be on top of EVERYTHING when I play jg, I was in a game where the opposing Ahri invaded for my blue nearly 4 times, my team never pinged missing until after I was killed by the opposition, and my partners expected me to gank like some sorta god when I'm behind, is there some kinda trick to being on top of the ganks and countering invasions? I tried explaining that I am still learning Evelynn but my partners kept on giving me bullshit about how Evelynn's "easy to play" when I can barely handle 2 camps before recalling, what am I supposed to do?

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Verxint2 votes

The mute button

Welcome to jungling :^)

crabface51 votes

I really think it comes down to what your partners really need. Square up with them and ask them what they want from you. Personally, Jungling has a Venn Diagram of playstyles: Heavy on Gank, Heavy on Farm, or a blend between the two. In the champion select, know what your teammates are going to play. Look for what the team needs, not what you want to play. I've often made that mistake at support where I should've picked Thresh when instead I picked Morgana, or at top lane when I picked Nasus when I should've picked Urgot. If your team needs a tank, then play a tank like Udyr or Malph. If your team wants to snowball hard, then pick an assassin or a marksman, like yi or evelynn, or kindred or graves. If they want you to go evelynn, make them give you a good reason too other than "Its op" or something similar. Make them think logically about what they want their team comp to be to win. Like Poke team comp, Teamfight team comp, wombo combo team comp, split-push team comp, etc. Even if its on champs that you wouldn't consider your best, put your best foot forward, but lean more towards what the meta is. Right now, evelynn seems ok for solo-queue, but statistics show that the best junglers in patch 6.9 are kindred, nidalee, and malzahar, but I wouldn't mind putting amumu, gragas, or sejuani up there either. If you want to win, make your team care about champion select, which most people can brush off easily.

Thanks for listening!

vicarship541 votes

Plz don't take this guy's advice.

“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.”

― John Lydgate

TLDR; do wut YOU think is best for the team, and eventually you will learn. Someone sitting in lane bossing you around doesn't know whats best for YOU, he knows whats best for HIM.

Glîtchy1 votes

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Plz don't take this guy's advice.

“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.”

― John Lydgate

TLDR; do wut YOU think is best for the team, and eventually you will learn. Someone sitting in lane bossing you around doesn't know whats best for YOU, he knows whats best for HIM.

well how am I supposed to do anything when my partners don't even ward themselves?

vicarship541 votes

Chances are you depend too high on your team with a comment like that.. Work on improving your own errors and you will learn the game.

Glîtchy1 votes

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Chances are you depend too high on your team with a comment like that.. Work on improving your own errors and you will learn the game.

I do ward, but there are some choke points that I can't ward due to ward cooldown, so I ask them to get those choke points warded, but they don't, saying how they're too busy farming when they don't even know where the hell the opposing laner is.

vicarship541 votes

Just focus on yourself.. if your team doesn't do what you need to shine, then find another way. Thats how you improve believe it or not. You have to "think outside the box" when things arnt easy.

Glîtchy1 votes

Yeah....I don't play those champs you recommend, cause they're boring as hell presently.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Evelynn's first clear isn't great, but it shouldn't be that bad. I can usually manage to get about 5 camps before having to back or kill a scuttle crab to heal.

I might be able to give some advice if you would post a match history or two. I don't main her but I am competent enough (even if I prefer the AD/bruiser build).

For general advice, I typically try to have defensive wards when I have reason to believe I'm at risk in my own jungle.

I'll have a pink ward within my jungle and I'll often ward over the wall when doing a buff camp. I also pull the camp into a bush to deny vision.

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