Can Cho'gath be Veigar'ed please

Diamondserpent··1 votes·659 views

Since Veigar was gutted, I think Riot well overdue another gutting so I think this should be the guy... Chogath ... Yes, this thing, that can hardly be called a tank when it has a Q as wide as my mum's ass, a silence (an "op" mechanic removed from both Talon and Leblanc because COUNTERPLAY but Chogath still has his silence and can burst JUST as well. His horrendous ult that can half-health a tank with its ridiculously low cooldown and free stats.

Seriously, this is just one of these toxic older designs like Veigar was. Riot needs to introduce some counterplay to his kit of knock-ups, silences and a hilarous ult that makes Volibear bite look awful by comparison. I don't think he'll get the same treatment... because he's not a mage and we all know that Riot LOVE to gut mages but not their precious assassin/bruisers.

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Marthian1 votes

Veigar wasn't gutted though. I've seen people doing just as good if not better with his new kit. It just has more counterplay now.

Definitely agree, Cho'gath needs looked at though.

kJs1 votes

You weren't reading the patch notes were you? Nor did you read any other articles/news websites like Surrender@20.

Silences on Assassins were too strong. Riot said this.

Cho'Gath is not an Assassin. His kit doesn't let him blink to your face delete you and blink away. If you're unlucky at dodging his Rupture you will take a lot of damage but Cho'Gath has like the lowest mobility out of all the tanks in this game. There's only a couple that are just as immobile as him. TBH I can't think of any other tanks as immobile or less mobile than him. He can't just disappear and run away like textbook Assassins do.

Silences on non-Assassins are apparently okay because they aren't supposed to delete your face - granted that the silencer isn't superfed.


Volibear 's bite isn't an ultimate. I don't get how you can compare them like that. I can't understand your logic.


Plenty of Assassins have been gutted in the past. Kassadin is gutted. He was an Assassin. Khazix was gutted. He is supposed to be built like an Assassin. Fizz was gutted with the DFG removal. He's fighter now because it's better than his assassin. Leblanc arguably got gutted. She simply got nerfed really hard because she was too strong for too long.

Bruisers are much much healthier than Assassins in this game; and I'm not talking about "Fighter" Trirelia. Irelia Almost any champion can be bruiser/fighter. It's like the most basic role in League of Legends, it requires no real special tactics or difficult strategies like with ADC = Farm Lane phase | Support = Focus on peeling and healing | Assassin = Delete Targets quickly and get out because you'll die if you don't.

Bruisers and Fighters are simply the most basic thing to apply, build and play with.

Flying Buntcake1 votes

Not to mention the silence duration scales up to 2.5 seconds. (not mad, but like wow)

Wind Whistler1 votes

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Not to mention the silence duration scales up to 2.5 seconds. (not mad, but like wow)

It used to be 4 seconds. Imagine that.

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