Like I say in another post somewhere on the forums, I absolutely respect that choice for players skilled enough to pull it off. I'm not one of those. All my skill is defensive.
Why do you think you're not skill enough to pull off plays like that? How do you get better if you don't try?
And Cleanse has saved me far more times than Flash ever did, so there you go. If you came to my lane to gank, you know what I'd do? Farm under turret and wait for you to get impatient. Dive me under turret, I'll ram into it, shield myself, and slow you before you can get out.
Then again, I guess Flash will give you your "Get Out Of The Hole My Poor Decision Just Dug Free" card.
Look, Cleanse has saved my life too, running it with Flash, has allowed me to do many things to save my ass. Cleanse is also a "get out of the hole my poor decision just dug free: card as well, still on a support, it's not as effective because you should be prioritizing different things and flash also for big plays to happen. Trading a Support flash for AD/Mid flash more times then not will always be worth.
Exactly my point. By not running Flash, I use all sorts of different combinations of summoners that most people don't even realize exist. Did you know you can take an enemy team off-guard by Teleporting into the middle of a fight, then Cleansing out of their guaranteed CC before you jump on them and turn it into an ace?
My point was not running Flash for a challenge is foolish, If flash wasn't the way it was 90% of players wouldn't run it 100% of the time. Putting yourself at a disadvantage is hindering your progression and your teams chances at success, as you are only as strong as your weakest link.
I did know you could tP into a fight, I've been watching Top Laners do it for years. Most people don't just stop to wait for the guy TPing in the middle of a team fight so that cleanse is pretty redundant in this scenario and you could again use that flash to gain ground to land your own CC or just flat out dodge the CC your trying to cleanse.
Ardent Censer on Tryndamere lets him get in the enemy's face for a longer period of time thanks to his insane self-heal. Players at low Bronze are conditioned to fear Tryndamere and either run away or focus him when he runs at them. The longer they're doing either, the longer my carry has to get away when low, free farm or whittle their carry down. I take support Tyrndamere when I have a carry who wants to be aggressive. With his sustain, I can safely draw fire off of him when the fights start or the ganks come. Maybe I die 1v3. Hell, maybe i go 0/8/2 in the early game. But if my ADC is 2/0/0, it's still better for the team. I'm getting my passive gold, but the ADC needs to be in lane as much as possible. Better I die than him.
Ardent would help you heal yourself I guess but the actual reason people build Ardent goes to waste on Tryn, you playing a split pusher as a support are still building for yourself and not your carries like most supports should, while you are right his W would be useful, it's not enough to justify using him in the support role, at all. You could use someone like Trundle who would far greater at everything Tryn is trying to do, and while his AD reduction isn't AoE, it is on a shorter CD and is a 100% chance slow while giving himself the AD bonus to do more damage while being tanky AF, and he also brings more CC in his E and the ability to take tank stats from a champion and making himself even bigger. He can also use the Ardent you build on Tryn more successful using both the Guardian and Font of Life runes to help augment your ADC.
You going 0/8/2 with your AD going 2/0/0 is never worth. You've given up a additional 6 kills to the enemy (assuming most of it is going to the other bot lane) basically digging your own AD into a hole he shouldn't be in because you're feeding on a useless support. You ever wonder why you don't see other people playing Tryn support? It isn't because it's a hidden sleeper that no one has thought of, it's because it sucks.
You must be unaware of what Tryndamere's W does. Nothing swings a fight like giving your ADC a big chunk of AD over the opponent and soaking all the damage meant for him.
I'm fully aware of what his kit does, and yes your right if you were in the top lane, I would be inclined to agree with you, but you clearly have no idea what it's like to be a ADC or Mid laner with a actual support who can keep there divers and assassins off of me. Tryn can't do that, he's also a awful teamfighting champion, which is why he's regarded as a split pusher.
Yes, you should be. But my carry doesn't, so I do it instead. When you have certain champions on the field (Jax, Voli, Nasus, Yi, Sona, Akali, Soraka, Hecarim, Garen, the list goes on), not having Mortal Reminder means losing at least 70% of the time. I ask my ADC to build it. If he doesn't, I do it, because we need it to win those teamfights. I don't care how little damage I'm doing with it, the point is not allowing them to outsustain us. If my ADC is ripping off a quarter of their life bar per hit and they're healing a third per hit, I will absolutely take Mortal Reminder, because it's the difference between victory and defeat.
While I like this idea and I won't actually ever complain about the idea of you taking Excs, I do understand your ADCs are monkeys in low bronze, but you aren't doing them any favors with your champ pool and builds. Again feel free to build Excs, but you don't need Mortal Reminder until last item, you should be using the rest of your items to actually get items to do your role successfully.
The healing most of those champs (outside of raka) actually heal with in a teamfight where you would be attacking them to get the GW debuff on them isn't worth changing your build drastically. Most of those champs Yi, Sona, Akali, Raka can be CC'd and/or bursted out before the healing can do much of anything or in the case of Voli, Darius, Garan, and Nasas can just be kited to all hell if you help your AD/Mid do it. Peeling and Protecting should be most of your focus as a support, with the occasional engaging.
The only champions I feel Excs is a must rush is Vlad, Swain, Mundo, Rhaast Kayn, Raka, Xin and WW. Also keep in mind AP champs can get Morellos and Tanks can get Bramble, while neither are as good as Excs because it's easier to proc Excs, you should build what is optimal on your champion and position.
That's something I'm afraid you'll have to correct yourself. I can't do that for you.
After almost 5 years of playing this game, I know for a 100% fact, I would never want a Tryn support. I think this is actually something you need to correct yourself on.
I'd also like to go back and touch on why you never upgrade the Relic or Coin support lines? You don't even build them at the start of the game. Do you realize how much money you lose out on by not buying them? Again, hindering yourself and your team.
on Sona (and this is an extreme example, mind) doesn't give me the huge one-shot burst, sure, but that's not why I'm here. I'm here to help my team win, and every one of these items facilitates my team making a good play.