Its not your junglers fault

PhearBunny·Jan 31, 2019·6 votes·3,190 views

If every lane feeds, and mid doesnt assist in scuttle skirmishes. You didn't lose because your jungler lost, your jungler lost because you all lost.

15 Comments

RalanrJan 31, 20195 votes

“But if I can’t blame you then I have to blame myself and I can’t do that.”

DaBoooshJan 31, 20191 votes

You can blame Riot for poor matchmaking and a 'terrible balance team'

RalanrJan 31, 20191 votes

Honestly, I don’t blame matchmaking as I just assume I’m not as good as I could be.

I don’t blame the balance team either. They make dumb decisions, but I imagine their goal is never perfect balance.

xDelightifyxJan 31, 20191 votes

due to that isnt their goal they wont do any good changes. I can not understand why you wouldnt want perfect balance. This game is in the worst state since like 4 years atm and that is only so, because of riots prejudiced balance and design team, aswell as their bias to certain roles/champs. I only hear riot crying about how bad the forum behaviour and overall feedback is and that they dont listen to their playerbase, because the biggest part of those are no good players and biased on their own, some are rude aswell. The thing is all good and sucessful games listend to their community and tired to archive a perfect balance. tft for example needed no patch for like... 5 years? That id call balance. The thing is instead of Riot denying all Request of the Community they should actually try to archive balance (for the biggest part of the playerbase) and they should try to listen to their Community (not only to the 0.002% challengers, funny is that they font even do that anymore....). They are acting like emus hitting their head in the sand like : if i cant see the critic/problems it/they arent there. Seriously that is really tilting as player @Riot. and it is not helping anyone but you to lose players.

RalanrJan 31, 20191 votes

People have been saying Riot has made the worst patch since I was in college before 2016. Yet people are still playing and both the forums and Reddit have never slowed down in activity. Everyone claims to hate Riot’s decisions (hell, I do at times) but that hasn’t stopped people from playing.
I don’t know enough about the TF2 community to talk about their balance. But if I base it on any gaming community of a game I’ve played (WoW, League, For Honor, HoTS, Overwatch) then I can tell you that people always bitch and complain, saying that new changes aren’t good enough.
The community is filled with people who are A) people who don’t understand game balance outside of how it benefits them, B) people who don’t understand the point of a company trying to keep a game active, or C) actual morons. Do you know that there are still people who think there was nothing wrong with old Poppy? Or how about people who think an entire class of characters shouldn’t ever exist (pick one, each class has an example of this).
Riot actually listens to the community a lot more than people realize. Conquerer was created based on community feedback, as was the extra bans system. Sure it may not look like it when they ignore some suggestions or disagree with people, but when you consider the utterly massive amount of people who play this game, it’s easy to understand why Riot doesn’t get to every idea.

xDelightifyxJan 31, 20191 votes

People have been saying Riot has made the worst patch since I was in college before 2016. Yet people are still playing and both the forums and Reddit have never slowed down in activity. Everyone claims to hate Riot’s decisions (hell, I do at times) but that hasn’t stopped people from playing.

That is so because one bad patch follows anothers. I said in another discussion that the akali nerfs were the first "good" change since patch 7.2 and im serious if i say that. I think it has stopped ppl. from playing lol, but thats just my personal experience and nothing to put on everybody.

I don’t know enough about the TF2 community to talk about their balance. But if I base it on any gaming community of a game I’ve played (WoW, League, For Honor, HoTS, Overwatch) then I can tell you that people always bitch and complain, saying that new changes aren’t good enough.

The difference is that it is balanced enough so that you can win with every nation (sorry im no native english speaker, missing the right word there) and you can use every champ. Sure there is a meta too, but you always have several choices. I think thats not the case with LoL, cause on the one hand there are many socalled "unplayable" champs (meta reasons) whereas on the other hand you have pick/ban or "instantwin" champions.

The community is filled with people who are A) people who don’t understand game balance outside of how it benefits them, B) people who don’t understand the point of a company trying to keep a game active, or C) actual morons. Do you know that there are still people who think there was nothing wrong with old Poppy? Or how about people who think an entire class of characters shouldn’t ever exist (pick one, each class has an example of this).

I think ppl are underestimating the Playerbase or better the "low elo"part. Even a Gold player has a decent game knowledge these days, nothing to compare with season 2.... So why wouldnt you try to archive a decent game feeling for them aswell, especially because gold and below holds like 80% of all players.

Riot actually listens to the community a lot more than people realize. Conquerer was created based on community feedback, as was the extra bans system. Sure it may not look like it when they ignore some suggestions or disagree with people, but when you consider the utterly massive amount of people who play this game, it’s easy to understand why Riot doesn’t get to every idea.

I dont think so, im of the opinion that riot only does listen to lcs/proplayers and only if Summoners Rift is buring, theyll do smth about it. The best example was the - 5ms irelia nerf. Seriously that was like Riot sending a big "f*ck u all" out to the entire Community. Sure they cant and shouldnt listen to everybody (at once) but if things like Duskblade, the ongoing dmg meta, akalis shroud, irelias rework, pyke, yasuo etc are beeing frequently criticised you cant tell me that they just "didnt notice" it. Conquerer is the best example for how riot is not listening at all. Noone asked them to make a true dmg providing, massive overpowered, easy abuseable mastery. What the Community was asking for was a mastery that helped especially bruisers. It could have been durability, mobespeed to stay close, defensive stats, or even offensive stats. But no some biased Riot employee likes true dmg more than his mother. Again noone asked for bruisers that oneshot you, while they are tanky enough to dive if they build one defensive item. Idk how it cpuld even go that wrong. Sorry for the long Text but im really concerned about lol.

RalanrJan 31, 20191 votes

Except people were asking for a bruiser rune and Riot delivered. The problem was that (imo) they didn’t do enough tests on the damn thing.

Yasuo is a great example why Riot doesn’t listen to lower ranks in the community. Yes, Yasuo is annoying as fuck, but he had clear weaknesses and abilities that tell people to play smarter around him. As much as people hate his windwall, good players can work around it.

But they’ll still hit Yasuo if he’s too much of a problem. When nocrit tank Yasuo was a thing, Riot killed it because it had no weakness. When warlords bloodlust healed off crit and gave Yas infinite sustain, Riot reworked that rune.

The difference between the boards criticisms and Riots reaction is that what a player may dislike might actually be something that works in the game.

BigFBearJan 31, 20192 votes

So true. You guys don't realize how important Scuttle is for Jungler and how far you could set enemy Jungler behind if you take both Crabs. Especially in this new jungle where you are complete useless rest of the game if the enemy steals one of your buffs.

NaalithJan 31, 20192 votes

You're saying it's not the jungler's fault if I hard shove my lane into the enemy tower over and over then get ganked and die repeatedly? Blasphemy.

Daddy AntsJan 31, 20191 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3siuaM7ZPC8

PhearBunnyJan 31, 20191 votes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3siuaM7ZPC8

lmao this is the best

Daddy AntsJan 31, 20191 votes

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lmao this is the best

SirHydroJan 31, 20191 votes

Jungler's never any mistakes ever, nothing is ever their fault.

LeftyRaydyJan 31, 20191 votes

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If every lane feeds, and mid doesnt assist in scuttle skirmishes. You didn't lose because your jungler lost, your jungler lost because you all lost.

As a mid main who is an Ekko OTP. I am always assisting junglers who never want to come mid. I help them compete for enemy camps and much more yet can never be mid to assist.