Kindred state

I have read other posts about Kindred's loss of heal nerf and people asking for it back, and while its very clear Kindred is in a super weak state right now it isnt their survival that is the problem. Its their damage, their range, and their movement speed. For a late game "hyper carry" they dont have all that much damage. They have to get to over 50 minutes with over 15 marks before they start to deal good damage.

They start out all right (Their base damage on level 1 abilities) but by 10 minutes and every one has completed their first item even if you have 2 or 3 kills and 4 or 5 marks everyone is starting to do more damage then you, and can just turn on you can kill you, the moment when you should be snowballing a game just like any other hyper carry would be able to thanks to their early kill lead and gold lead and able to 1v1 most people you just cant because of how bad your level scaling and your item scaling are, since the only thing they scale with is their passive they dont get much from killing some one that isnt marked, and only having 1 extra mark is not large enough for you to be able to snow ball off of with the disadvantage to the rest of your scalings. (q gains 5 damage per passive only 20% from AD which means to = the damage you get on q from your passive in AD you would have to get 25 AD that's bad, w gains 40% of your passive and AD is the only ability with decent scaling, but only does 5 more damage per level up so its level scaling is terrible, and no one cares really about E since it doesnt scale with just about anything... nothing from the passive and the same measly 20% from AD not to mention how surprisingly hard it is to get 3 hits off after you mark some one with it.)

This problem just exhasturbates itself further going into that mid game because of the super short range, and the slow movement speed, both of which also kill laning kindred viability which I know a lot of people would love to play. Since your range is shorter then some ASSASSINS poke range, and if you want to get into the fight you have to be in the thick of it, with no defenses what so ever + those bad damage scalings I just talked about.

It was said that riot would look at kindred and how they were doing after the removal of the heal and move accordingly and yet nothing has happened with them, they have been dumpstered and forgotten. Yes I may be a bit salty, and yes I am bad at this game, that how ever does not change that I WANT to play kindred, but just cant play it in ranked or any game that I want to win because they are terrible. I bought them day 1 and I still love the champ i love the play style I love hopping around and last minute ults that save people. What I dont love is that when I am ahead have half an item advantage and I jump on a half health opponent that is 0/2/0 or 0/2/1 that since they farmed up enough minions to be only 2 levels below me and have 1 item complete they can just turn around and 100 to 0 me when I was the one ganking them because even though I am ahead I dont do any damage and they do.

Its honestly to hard to get marks past 3 or 4, and their needs to be a way to scale other then getting 12+ marks. That is not realistic in most games, and should not be what they are balanced around. Complaining that a kindred with 20 marks recks you is like complaining that a fiora with a 30/2/10 KDA is killing your team of 5/10/10 KDA , they SHOULD reck you and it shouldnt take 20 marks (or even 10) for it to be considered fed, because 10 marks is NOT the number of kills/ assists kindred is going to have, since the marks are pre-meditated and require you to predict who will be out of position in a team fight. (or forwarn your opponent you are coming by at least a half a second (and then let them live long enough for it to activate....) by 30 minutes its average to good to have 9 marks, by 40 12 and by 50 15 and yet it takes getting to 50 minutes for them to even get to 50% I dont think any other "Hyper carry" matches this terrible preformance, I am sure some one will prove me wrong though.

Any my plea is please do SOMETHING to help them, whether its movement speed so they can get where they need to be easier and fast and get out of the enemy jungle faster when they get their buffs, or range so they dont have to be practically face to face with an enemy melee and can more reasonably trade with enemy ranged opponents. Or even just give their abilities better scaling or give them better AD per level or AS per level could go a long way to making their level and item scaling for getting those extra early kills and extra early stuff much more meaningful. I dont want to not care about the marks, cus I love that about kindred as well. Those mind games of "Maybe i am coming :)" are so much fun to me, but its not a mind game, I HAVE to go for them, I NEED those marks, and I cant wait 75 seconds to pick some one else. I cant just go farm in the jungle and keep myself even, I HAVE to get kills or invade, which are always risky since until I have 7 marks or more (and I have to start invading for my 3rd mark) I am weaker then litterally everyone by level 6, and thats usually 8 minutes into the game. So if I am not averaging a mark a minute for the first 10 minutes I am behind, and that is just never going to be realistic.

Any way I hope some one reads this, and gets something out of it, hell maybe some one will have a tip for me about how to get better with my favorite duo, but most likely I am just going to get flamed for liking a character with "infinite scaling" no matter how unrealistic and hard to get and weak that scaling (and the rest of the scalings) are, so bring on the flame :).

P.S yes some of this is anecdotal, also some of this is my own fault, and yes some of this is a little exagurated, but its honestly not that far off from what the win rates are showing, and even some of the games I have seen from actual good players where they are just behind even when ahead at 10-20 minutes in the game.