Why do team mates take my jungle camps?

MunchCrunchLunch·Nov 21, 2016·6 votes·1,686 views

what is this bullshit jungle gives less gold than lane go to your damn lane and farm it. if not then queue up for jungle mofo

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JafarThePandaNov 21, 20162 votes

as a jungle main talking to an obvious novice: Giving your top laner a gromp, bot lane krugs, and mid lane your raptors, helps them keep a gold and xp lead. If they have a situation where they are behind in lane, IE got frozen or just being camped (Which you should be countering) that bit of gold helps them keep pace

disclaimer: don't do this until you're at a good level to do more roams than farms, usually when you get your jungle item component ( item 3133 item 3751 or item 3113 ) is when you should be giving your laners extra camp farm

GrimspeakeNov 21, 20163 votes

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as a jungle main talking to an obvious novice:

Lol close but not quite right for a jungle 'main'

JafarThePandaNov 21, 20162 votes

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Lol close but not quite right for a jungle 'main'

Except that is exactly right. There's literally no point when you're ahead to not spread your wealth unless you're playing to carry because you don't trust your team worth a crap.

GrimspeakeNov 21, 20162 votes

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Except that is exactly right. There's literally no point when you're ahead to not spread your wealth unless you're playing to carry because you don't trust your team worth a crap.

Much to early to share jungle. Ur midlaner will practically die to raptors and u still need more gold then that to be effective and keep levels up. Im not sharing anything except blue unless someone needs a quick 100g for a power spike until we take all tier ones and i can just farm their jungle. midgame is different but ur saying to give out all ur jg except red after first clear is ridiculous. Ur laners will get chunked super hard and just go back to lane and die or end up zoned.

Could not careNov 21, 20161 votes

That usually happens to me when botlane is either missing some gold for a buy or is really far behind and would risk being instakilled if they touch the lane. In the first case, it should be fine to lose 1 camp or so, in the second case, you should really try to 4-man botlane somehow before the snowball gets out of control.

IPinPCNov 21, 20161 votes

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what is this bullshit jungle gives less gold than lane go to your damn lane and farm it. if not then queue up for jungle mofo

You should not be complaining , you should be giving some of your jungle to laners. You have more jungle than you need - Rifft Scuttlers, enemy jungle (of course you have to track opponent jungler, WARDS), your jungle respawns while you ganking too. You have to think about objectives overall, not just how to earn money to yourself.

EschetonNov 21, 20161 votes

Non-jungle peeps don't realize that the new camps take much longer to respawn, and as such have an actual impact on the jungler if you take one.

RageQ2Nov 21, 20161 votes

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Non-jungle peeps don't realize that the new camps take much longer to respawn, and as such have an actual impact on the jungler if you take one.

Sometime it's better off, say your mid laner is carrying like 1v9 sort of carry he should be the one getting a big money and xp lead, grabbing a few jungle camps would make him better off because that's about a 100g lead per camp between wave. Even if someone's behind, they can take a camp while you're skirmishing, let them tank the camps you dislike. Say I was Khazix I would want to give my bot laner some Krugs (or top) because that's my slowest camp and most likely they could finish it without me having to was my time there in the first place

JafarThePandaNov 22, 20161 votes

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Non-jungle peeps don't realize that the new camps take much longer to respawn, and as such have an actual impact on the jungler if you take one.

the thing about this statement is, and this is where it becomes objective - I don't care about my camps once I've hit my jungle item, besides buffs, and scuttle control. People forget that scuttles and controlling the honeyfruit plants can actually keep some junglers at bay who are reliant on a strong early game. LeeSin Hecarim Elise Rengar Khazix all make their stand in early games by the lack of warding because your support doesn't have item 2049 . I will give up a 100g camp if I can get vision to prevent my opposing jungler getting a 150G kill and so on so forth.

Now you can also make the argument that some junglers take a long time to get to a powerspike so they HAVE to take camps for a while as well - this is true, but this is where you need to decide if invading is worth it, OR, when you gank, get XP/share gold in lane to push it out if desired by laner (especially with an summoner 14 top lane or mid) to make up for it.