can Lux get the Ziggs treatment?

Tworie·Dec 22, 2015·3 votes·472 views

Her safety needs to get nerfed and so does her E's radius ... when you're good wish skillshots, it's impossible to miss using her E since it's radius is so huge.

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Mayor StubbsDec 22, 20155 votes

I can't agree, I think she's in a pretty well place currently. She seems to have clear strengths and weaknesses

Critmaster GarenDec 22, 20153 votes

ziggs has 2 zoning tools which he can use to block the entire lane. he can also use his w as mobility tool if needed. and his main poke ability has a 3 second cooldown, and noticably longer range with the bounces.

i dont think those 2 champs are comparable when it comes to safe play and poke.

The WhamboozlerDec 22, 20152 votes

Lux is fine. Her E is wide, yes... but it's the only skill she can reliably hit with and it eats a lot of mana and has a fairly long cooldown. If she's poking you out of lane with E alone, you're doing something wrong.

If anything, Ziggs needs a slight buff. Let's not nerf one of the few AP mids still allowed to exist just because you don't understand how to play around her. AP champs got dumped on enough already with the huge spike in their item's cost. Instead why not pick Lux and play a few matches as her until you understand her weaknesses better?

TworieDec 22, 20151 votes

Lux doesn't really have any weaknesses

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1975754602/217320009?tab=overview http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1974642952/217320009 http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1983185756/217320009 http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1977703936/217320009

She's the ultimate safe pick with shields, slows, binds, and damaging long range harass

The WhamboozlerDec 22, 20151 votes

Then play her and I'll see you in diamond.

Yes, her range makes her pretty safe. But just off the top of my head she has pretty rough early mana issues. She's got one of the lowest health stats in the game. (I think anivia is worse, but anivia has a built-in GA, so...), her waveclear is lackluster without moving up into auto attack range, which is risky, or using your ult. She's immobile and has to position well. She is 100% skillshots, and thus can miss all her abilities and accomplish NOTHING.

Here... I'll give you the sure-fire way to stomp on Lux. Pick a mobile assassin. ANY of them. Bait her Q. Dodge it. All-in her. POP. If she's playing smart and too far back to all-in her... roam. Lux is a shitty roamer due to how slow, fragile and vulnerable she is to being dove on. Roam bot and get a kill. Or just roam into river and see if she follows you, then jump her. Is her team warding well, playing safe and smart and not giving you the chance to kill them? Well, that makes THEM smart, not Lux OP. To beat Lux you have to outsmart her or outplay her.

As for those game examples? In several of them you pretty brutally countered your lane opponent and in pretty much all of them your team seemed insanely fed and had very few people on it capable of exploiting your weak spots. So you're suggesting that Lux is OP because you won a game where your Riven top got 19 kills? Everyone seems OP when they're that fed, dude. And the all for one shows nothing beyond "oh, heimer can't beat 5 poke champs".

Play Lux into a decent Zed or Yasuo while your top lane is losing and your bot lane is barely going even and see how hard you can carry. Lux isn't OP at all. She's just strong in the current meta if you play her smart. They need to buff the other mages to her level, not nerf one of the last viable AP mids into the ground.