If Grasp stole HP instead...

he means that he takes health from his target permanently ie if you are at 1000max hp and he procs grasp he would go to 995 max hp for example

and to his question would we enter a grasp meta yes that would be beyond broken

He means if you have 2000hp then procs it vs you, you then have 1995 and so on.

They loop back around to max hp... the one where you can survive execute damage.

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ask yourself what would happen if the target reached 0 hp at that point would they continue dying for no reason just cuz 0 hp or would they just cease to exist in the game?

i mean, that would require like 400 grasp hits of a melee champion on someone who wouldnt build hp by lvl 18.

thats not to say the idea isnt completely bonkers.

id rather prefer they gave grasp the old dark harvest effect. meaning after you get a certain number of health from the stacks, grasp stays active for 5 minutes once its activated.

this way you could carry the proc across the map into a teamfight after a certain point. would make it slightly better without taking it over the top.

otherwise what they could do is:

• reduce grasp cooldown to 3 secons
• reduce grasp damage to 3% max health (same dps as with the old cooldown)
• change the heal to 3% missing health (stronger than before when youre below 50% max hp)

this would very slightly buff the heal in clutch situations where you need it more than at full health, and buff the health gain through increased proc rate, while keeping the overall damage the same.

this would be a very minor but effective buff to the health and sustain components of the rune imo.