Using the excuse, "they are immobile" isn't going to work anymore. An ap champion ccing me once and deleting me in 1 hit is not justified by "immobile". Brand, Zyra, Morgana, they all need exceptional gutting. Being deleted by a skill lacking champion because " they are immobile" is bullshit.
SnugglePuggle945 votesSeems to me someone got their butt roasted.
AP itemization is already in the dirt thanks to AD mains crying about them, and then Riot's awful bias against AP as well.
Learn to play against them. AP doesn't need anything but buffs or reworks.
And stop QQing.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesAh. The classic argument that makes all mage mains look whiny and makes people not take them seriously: "Riot has a bias against AP".
Seriously. Stop this "argument". It's bullshit, and everyone who's not absolutely delusional knows that it's bullshit.
OP's wrong (except in a couple points - Morgana's Q does hit for way too much damage, even with a full support build), yes, but you're also wrong and recycling an argument that has neither substance nor validity.
SnugglePuggle943 votesWow. We are not whiny. It's actually true, and not bullshit. If all you AD mains would get your heads out of your asses you would realize it as well.
I don't know where you got that from but Morg's Q does not do that much. Brand hits way harder than she does and she doesn't even have a freaking penetration burn passive like he does.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesWow. We are not whiny.
I never said mage mains were. I said people who actually used that "riot is biased" argument made mage mains look whiny, because it is whiny. Mages are not whiny, people who use a bullshit conspiracy theory as an argument make them look whiny.
It's actually true, and not bullshit.
Riiiiight. And my conspiracy theory is that the government tries to control our minds with chemtrails so we don't see that the earth is flat.
If all you AD mains would get your heads out of your asses you would realize it as well.
I main mages, tanks, and supports, and Nasus. There are precisely two champions in my pool that somewhat regularly build AD - Shen and Poppy, with their Titanic and Triforce, respectively. I'm mastery 7 on Ahri, Soraka, and Leona, and the only AD-building champion I'm m6 on is Ashe. I don't even fucking buy Trinity on Nasus normally. "AD main" my ass.
I don't know where you got that from but Morg's Q does not do that much. Brand hits way harder than she does and she doesn't even have a freaking penetration burn passive like he does.
As support Morgana I half-health squishies with Q alone late-game. Support Morgana. The most offensive item I have is a fucking 
, and my most offensive rune is Aery.
Brand does a lot more than Morg (although his burn does not give penetration, what gave you that idea?), yes, but her Q is the size of a truck and hits like one. Her Q alone hits for more than most of his other abilities will by themselves.
SnugglePuggle942 votesI never said mage mains were. I said people who actually used that "riot is biased" argument made mage mains look whiny, because it is whiny. Mages are not whiny, people who use a bullshit conspiracy theory as an argument make them look whiny.
It's not a bullshit conspiracy theory, and doesn't not make anyone look whiny.
Riiiiight. And my conspiracy theory is that the government tries to control our minds with chemtrails so we don't see that the earth is flat.
Really. Wow. And yes, it's true.
I main mages, tanks, and supports, and Nasus. There are precisely two champions in my pool that somewhat regularly build AD - Shen and Poppy, with their Titanic and Triforce, respectively. I'm mastery 7 on Ahri, Soraka, and Leona, and the only AD-building champion I'm m6 on is Ashe. I don't even fucking buy Trinity on Nasus normally. "AD main" my ass.
Most of the people who complain about people who are upset about the bias against AP are AD mains. I don't care if you are one or not. Still doesn't give you the right to be offensive to people who do think that Riot is biased (and they are!)
As support Morgana I half-health squishies with Q alone late-game. Support Morgana. The most offensive item I have is a fucking
Sorry but I'm level 7 mastery Morg and I take Aery as well as change my builds each game depending on what is needed. Unless I go for a build with at least 2 higher AP items, her Q doesn't half health squishies at all.
Nice try though.
Brand does a lot more than Morg (although his burn does not give penetration, what gave you that idea?), yes, but her Q is the size of a truck and hits like one. Her Q alone hits for more than most of his other abilities will by themselves.
I forgot what his passive was but whatever. It's the burn that does extra. Her Q's missile size is fine because it's so slow and is easy to dodge and easy to miss. Because it's her main damage ability, of course it will do more. There are tons of champs that have their damage built into one ability, like pre-rework Nunu and his old Q? Or was it E, I can't remember.
Anyway, she does not do that much and you are exaggerating way too much. Sheesh. If you keep doing it or try to disintegrate anything else, I will downvote and ignore you.
Bultz1 votesSeems to me someone got their butt roasted.
AP itemization is already in the dirt thanks to AD mains crying about them, and then Riot's awful bias against AP as well.
Learn to play against them. AP doesn't need anything but buffs or reworks.
And stop QQing.
Yeah that a load of shit. Don't fucking lie on the boards.
SnugglePuggle943 votesI'm not lying. It's the truth.
Maybe you need to go calm down and then come back with a clear head. Then you will realize, the only one that's wrong, is you.
Step Sis Lux4 votesMorgana deleted u in 1hit? Nice joke, get your facts right bro
Bultz1 votes[{quoted}](name=Step Sis Lux,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3zORhsbg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-04T14:37:41.494+0000)
Morgana deleted u in 1hit? Nice joke, get your facts right bro
Don't give me your shit. I've played morgana and she deletes people easily. If you can't your just bad.
StanisTheMannis5 votesmorg needs to land Q(a highly telegraphed and extremely slow moving skillshot), needs to get in your face to ult you, and requires you to stand in her consecrated ground to do ANY kind of damage. shut up. zyra is literally super squish, and also extremely telegraphed in everything she does. if she's fucking you up its because your positioning is beyond terrible to the point that you dont even know to get the fuck away from her plants. brand, eh. brand sucks as a mid, but he is oppressive in botlane.
Ralanr3 votesThough can we say that her Q hitbox is really dumb?
StanisTheMannis3 votesyes, the hitbox is massive. i think it's necessary though because of just HOW slow it moves. i think if they made the hit box in line with the actual ball, morg would have a MUCH harder time, and would be extremely weak.
DuskDaUmbreon2 votesTbh reducing Morgana's Q size might actually buff her, because the massive size of it makes it hit minions so fucking often.
Bultz1 votesmorg needs to land Q(a highly telegraphed and extremely slow moving skillshot), needs to get in your face to ult you, and requires you to stand in her consecrated ground to do ANY kind of damage. shut up. zyra is literally super squish, and also extremely telegraphed in everything she does. if she's fucking you up its because your positioning is beyond terrible to the point that you dont even know to get the fuck away from her plants. brand, eh. brand sucks as a mid, but he is oppressive in botlane.
Your must be insane to think landing her bind is difficult. Or that zyra's spammy ass isn't broken. Brand is OP fuck. Like where do you get off?
Lets have shrex4 votes"Delete people easily", yes, that's what a champion does by hitting his entire kit after getting a few items, at least they have skillshots and no mobility, not a kit that pretends to be skillful while being dumb and too forgiving.
Oleandervine4 votesYou 
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ZackTheWaffleMan1 votesI agree with all of these except Pyke and Kai'Sa. The former can only detonate you if you're at ~60% HP (depending on who you are), and the latter is hybrid
BlinkZZ1823 votesin order to be insta deleted by one enemy while being full health you have to
Infernape2 votesNo u
HP Crookshanks2 votes
[zombie-brand-mindblown]
LeBalancedChain1 votesJust Hexdrinker really is enough most of the time x)
ZackTheWaffleMan2 votesno u
Morgana Ultima2 votesUsing the excuse, "they are immobile" isn't going to work anymore. An ap champion ccing me once and deleting me in 1 hit is not justified by "immobile". Brand, Zyra, Morgana, they all need exceptional gutting. Being deleted by a skill lacking champion because " they are immobile" is bullshit.
If you are so far behind that Morgana can just delete you then you played so poorly and were crushed so utterly that you must have purchased your account to be playing in the same mmr as that Morgana player. May god have mercy on your soul.
Bultz1 votes[{quoted}](name=Morgana Ultima,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3zORhsbg,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-10-04T20:29:36.767+0000)
If you are so far behind that Morgana can just delete you then you played so poorly and were crushed so utterly that you must have purchased your account to be playing in the same mmr as that Morgana player. May god have mercy on your soul.
Ohhhh look the person named morgana is going to come bullshit to me how shes balanced. good one.
LeBalancedChain2 votesit's not bullshit, it's the truth, prove me that morgana (or AP champions in general) are op
you have hexdrinker, an item that makes every ap champ unable to 100-0 you, unless they are a dps AP champ like cassio/azir and even they struggle against it
you have mercs which speaks for itself
you have qss if you don't like morgana
aren't you that silver yasuo main who was getting teased by karma/yasuo/fizz/katarina mains because of a meme video that was made about you and all your complain? you literally come up with everything on the boards everytime you lose, maybe the problem is not the game, maybe the problem is you, and the fact that you are silver. I don't like doing personal "attacks" but your whole complain thing is annoying af and you don't see the problem
ContDeCaterinca11 votesI dont get it. AP has no versatility, you can only build burst, but no DPS (except for Cass and Ryze spamming or Teemo/Kaisa going full AP).
All AP champions suck in 1 vs 1 against Tanks and Juggernauts and the basic attacks do no damage(except for when you get a Sheen proc on 
, which is a niche item or when you have built in damage on basics(Orianna, Ekko, Diana, Teemo) )
Also lethality assassins with Duskblade and Dark Harvest 1 shot as well, but AD has so many possible builds as well.