Karma PBE Nerf - Patch 7.12

Sir Rouge··4 votes·1,757 views

Karma is sitting at a pretty high play rate (16-17% ish) and a pretty low winrate (46-47% ish), with the winrate pretty much compensating for the pretty high play rate. Her kit has nothing broken about it, she's a generalist (good at a lot of things but doesn't excel anywhere except maybe teamfight engage) and takes pratice to be effective (mix of aggressive-passive : too aggro = death cause squishy and too passive = worst Janna/Lulu). She's basically balanced in solo queue.

The fact that she's a generalist is why her play rate is high, not because she's OP in solo queue (at least, not anymore). She makes me think of Ezreal a lot : comfortable to play in every team comp as a pretty safe and effective pic (high playrate, low winrate).

I think Riot is nerfing her as they see her as a dominant pic and probably want to see her playrate drop (especially in pro play). They may also be nerfing her because of the upcoming support items changes so that other supports can shine since she'll synergise well with the changes (which could be a good reason to nerf her IMO, much better than the first reason above). My only issue is this : Thresh

From my personal experience, Thresh is the 2nd most effective pic against Karma (after Nami ). He is sitting at about 53-54% winrate with about a 33% playrate. Now, stats may not mean everything, but there should not be a valid reason for this to be ok since Thresh is definitely more mechanically intensive than Karma.

Basically, I'm ok with the nerf(s) as long as the reason is relatted to the item changes for supports and if Thresh is nerfed as well. If he does not get nerfed, the nerf to Karma will be too harsh as the power difference between these two champs will be too great and he'll be picked against her a lot since it's a good matchup for him.

Thanks for reading! (I feel like Karma PBE nerfs are the only threads I write - yikes XD)

2 Comments

Razw1 votes

As a karma main i think that this nerf will hurt her late game peeling potential, bursting your carry with shield / or team for engage ( or protect) is her only strong advantage, if this nerf get on live there is no longer reason to play her, because there are lulu and nami both strong mage supps with (after nerf) better peeling potential.

Lexyy1 votes

Noooooo why are they nerfing her :( she isnt even that op

Well they can nerf her e as much as they want, i hope they dont touch her q hehe

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