To be honest Fiora's true damage could use some toning down
It's not like she can't kill tanks anyway, because of her Cleaver. It wouldn't be the end of the world for her to kill tanks a little slower late game.
It's not like she can't kill tanks anyway, because of her Cleaver. It wouldn't be the end of the world for her to kill tanks a little slower late game.
Ya, I think they either need to cut down on her true damage or mobility, she certainly is not a "duelist" more like an assassin that deletes adcs and shreds tanks alike.
But the day riot nerfs fiora will be the day riot nerfs high damage dealer that abuses black cleaver....and vayne......probably never.
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Ya, I think they either need to cut down on her true damage or mobility, she certainly is not a "duelist" more like an assassin that deletes adcs and shreds tanks alike.
Deleting ADC's is pretty necessary, or else the ADC will draintank them.
Mobility is pretty necessary too, adds a level of skill.
While Fiora should shred tanks, she should not kill them quickly. Which is exactly what she is doing. That's not a fucking duel, that's a "Fiora counters tanks so you deserve to be oneshot".
her "mobility" makes her immune to slows, she should definitely not shred tanks if she can easily jump past them and kill the enemy adc, she should be punished for going for tanks first.
Completely shredding an enemy and healing your entire team is not "dueling".
Bursting someone down is not "dueling"
Using your kit to bring someone else down in a sustained fight is "dueling" mostly sustained because you are using defensive spells to counter the enemy she only has 1 which is an AOE stun.
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her "mobility" makes her immune to slows, she should definitely not shred tanks if she can easily jump past them and kill the enemy adc, she should be punished for going for tanks first.
If Fiora is jumping past tanks to go after the adc, something is wrong with your team. Not Fiora. She's not immune to slows either - a big part of her mobility is speed boosts, from Vitals and Cleaver.
Completely shredding an enemy and healing your entire team is not "dueling".
That only happens if 1) she isn't focused or 2) she ults a Diver like VI or Heca and kills them.
Bursting someone down is not "dueling"
It is if both champions are squishy. See: Riven.
Using your kit to bring someone else down in a sustained fight is "dueling" mostly sustained because you are using defensive spells to counter the enemy she only has 1 which is an AOE stun.
That's only if both champions are relatively tanky - Fiora must be able to duel ADC's as well, so she needs to burst them or else she simply can't. Same with Yas and Riven - if Fiora couldn't burst them, she'd just be bursted.
Um, her dashes more then make up for slows, she can dash while slowed, did you not know that?
Riven is not squishy, shes another toxic champ that is resistant to cc because of all of her dashes and you cannot counterbuild 
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Um, her dashes more then make up for slows, she can dash while slowed, did you not know that? Riven is not squishy, shes another toxic champ that is resistant to cc because of all of her dashes and you cannot counterbuild
Her dashes are really small though, did you know that? There's a reason Fiora gets movespeed from proccing vitals - the dashes aren't enough.
Riven is squishy, and if you don't think she is, you either fought a tank Riven or you blew everything into her shield, or you let her lifesteal up.
She isn't ADC type of squishy, but she's still very squishy.