What is the point of Jungle Shyvana?

4NoxiousHours·Mar 10, 2017·1 votes·1,032 views

Every time I see someone pick Shyvana for jungle I cringe. We are in a time where so many champions have some sort of CC skill that can greatly benefit the tides of the game.

So why should Shyvana always rely on items and other players to do the dirty work?

Use her W to catch enemies? that's funny the enemy can just slow her down with a skill that has a CD of 4 - 6 seconds.

Not to mention that there's already a champion that can do a much better job. At this point any other jungler can do a better job than Shyvana.

So what is the point of this champion being in the jungle? I really hate how items and teammates are the solution because that sounds like a cry for help.

10 Comments

Kirius DarkMar 10, 20172 votes

So ignorant. Shes one of the best split pushers in the game and a heavy counter jungler and duelist.

You sound like one of those who just cry and bitch for ganks thinking thats all junglers are for

ZephyrDrakeMar 10, 20172 votes

she is meant to have fast clears, counter jungle the heck out of the enemy and potentially kill the enemy jungler as well. Her having no CC means nothing. Please learn to play a champion before complaining about them

Asayake 5150glowMar 10, 20171 votes

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she is meant to have fast clears, counter jungle the heck out of the enemy and potentially kill the enemy jungler as well. Her having no CC means nothing. Please learn to play a champion before complaining about them

My problem (not the OP's) is that Warwick fills her role pretty damn well. She's only slightly better in a 1v1, only slightly tankier during her ult, has much worse burst and CC due to Warwicks Q being godlike compared to hers, and Warwick's Fear (don't say it can be dodged, because if we're assuming it was dodged, we're also assuming Shyvana is now out of range and should run away or die from being kited).

Shyv's better for damage in a teamfight, and like I said, a slightly better duelist, but all in all, Warwick does nearly everything she does.

ZephyrDrakeMar 10, 20171 votes

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My problem (not the OP's) is that Warwick fills her role pretty damn well. She's only slightly better in a 1v1, only slightly tankier during her ult, has much worse burst and CC due to Warwicks Q being godlike compared to hers, and Warwick's Fear (don't say it can be dodged, because if we're assuming it was dodged, we're also assuming Shyvana is now out of range and should run away or die from being kited).

Shyv's better for damage in a teamfight, and like I said, a slightly better duelist, but all in all, Warwick does nearly everything she does.

and yet i would say Shyvanna is way better than Warwick

Asayake 5150glowMar 10, 20171 votes

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and yet i would say Shyvanna is way better than Warwick

Your opinion is your own.

I'd say Warwick is stronger, his early ganks are much more powerful, and it's all about the early game in this meta.

MagicFlyingLlamaMar 10, 20172 votes

Junglers that do not have strong early ganks tend to be weak in soloQ and low ELO, due to people expecting and relying on ganks, and generally being really awful at playing a defensive lane. Likewise, low-elo junglers tend to only gank, lacking the experience or teamwork needed to counterjungle and contest objectives effectively.

Asayake 5150glowMar 10, 20171 votes

Well Shyvana does slightly more damage in a 1v1 (assuming a more duelist based build, WW's higher base AD/damages would give him an edge on that, but he usually goes for a tankier build), and more AoE damage in a teamfight, but other than that WW's better.

Kirius DarkMar 10, 20171 votes

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Well Shyvana does slightly more damage in a 1v1 (assuming a more duelist based build, WW's higher base AD/damages would give him an edge on that, but he usually goes for a tankier build), and more AoE damage in a teamfight, but other than that WW's better.

WW is shit in teamfights whereas Shyv isnt. She can dive the back line, flame the entire team then pop a squishy in AA-Q-hydra active. She also brings an extra summoner of summoner 3 or summoner 14 since flash or ghost isnt taken most of the time

Asayake 5150glowMar 10, 20171 votes

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WW is shit in teamfights whereas Shyv isnt. She can dive the back line, flame the entire team then pop a squishy in AA-Q-hydra active. She also brings an extra summoner of or since flash or ghost isnt taken most of the time

He's not shit, just not as good.

He can make picks with his ult, sustain with his ult (and lock someone down) in the middle of a teamfight once all CC has been burnt, and provide an AoE Fear.

Bringing Flash over Ignite or Exhaust is your choice. Shyvana gets no Flash because of it (and she could use it very well, if she jumps on someone who Flashes away, she can flash next to them and burst them anyway). Also, I think they usually bring Exhaust/Ghost, not Ignite.

4NoxiousHoursMar 10, 20171 votes

Counter jungle and split pushing huh?

I KNOW Shyvana is a fast clear champion but she is NOT the best duelist. Nor can she destroy towers efficiently as Udyr can. So her being a split pusher is out of the question because the team will BEG for her tankyness.

The enemy KNOWS that she's reliant to her E/W to win a dual so when they manage to catch her on CD with those skills, she's nothing. Not to mention that even if she did have her E and W active on the enemy, a stun or slow can potentially make her lose in a dual. I've seen these things with my own eyes in game and on streams. She's garbage as a jungler.

Her Ganks are also garbage, ADC's have kits AND SUPPORTS that prevent her from any success in ganking lanes.