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I remember some riot member saying they were going to release the updates after worlds but can we at least get a tease? Kinda like how we did for the juggernauts and they were released a few patches later.
fééd l0rd3 votesThe whole marksman role is unbalanced tbh. The three biggest problems are Vayne, Jinx and Tristana. I main the ADC role and I know what I am talking about. Vayne is a problem cause nobody can shut her down early effectivly. Graves and lucian WERE strong enough but now they are not anymore. Tristanas early is too strong compared to her late game and I dont think we have to talk about Jinx.
Compare Ezreal to Tristana? She is as mobile as he is, has a better waveclear, stronger early game and a better late game. can siege better and has no useless spell like ezreal (w). Why should i play Ezreal?
KONO RUBICK DA1 votesThe whole marksman role is unbalanced tbh. The three biggest problems are Vayne, Jinx and Tristana. I main the ADC role and I know what I am talking about. Vayne is a problem cause nobody can shut her down early effectivly. Graves and lucian WERE strong enough but now they are not anymore. Tristanas early is too strong compared to her late game and I dont think we have to talk about Jinx.
Compare Ezreal to Tristana? She is as mobile as he is, has a better waveclear, stronger early game and a better late game. can siege better and has no useless spell like ezreal (w). Why should i play Ezreal?
this is extremely true. The role in the game is unbalanced since we need a marksmen to win (we can't take an other carry role i hope riot fixe it) and reworked/new adc are 100% better than old adc.
SuperJediNinja1 votesThe whole marksman role is unbalanced tbh. The three biggest problems are Vayne, Jinx and Tristana. I main the ADC role and I know what I am talking about. Vayne is a problem cause nobody can shut her down early effectivly. Graves and lucian WERE strong enough but now they are not anymore. Tristanas early is too strong compared to her late game and I dont think we have to talk about Jinx.
Compare Ezreal to Tristana? She is as mobile as he is, has a better waveclear, stronger early game and a better late game. can siege better and has no useless spell like ezreal (w). Why should i play Ezreal?
Remember how strong she before the rework? Then I remember her receiving major nerfs
fééd l0rd1 votesand it is disgusting that she is allowed to be still that strong. she has no weaknesses. 0. my winrate on trist is 70% and my winrate on ezreal 50%. my winrate on vayne is also 70%.
these ''nerfs'' mean nothing imo. and i dont think they are considered as nerfs.. tell me one weakness of tristana which ezreal don't has.
SuperJediNinja1 votesand it is disgusting that she is allowed to be still that strong. she has no weaknesses. 0. my winrate on trist is 70% and my winrate on ezreal 50%. my winrate on vayne is also 70%.
these ''nerfs'' mean nothing imo. and i dont think they are considered as nerfs.. tell me one weakness of tristana which ezreal don't has.
Before rework she was gutted then she was useless so they kept buffing her and now we are here... She just has a very strong kit
fééd l0rd1 votesIt is not just a very strong kit. she has no major weaknesses and so there is no counterplay. I am very excited to see how many things go wrong with the new marksman update. either they remove the bomb from her or her selfpeel or something. she has just too much.
but tbh it is not just the marksman role. other roles are also unbalanced. i mean compare syndra to veigar. or talon to zed etc.
SuperJediNinja1 votesIt is not just a very strong kit. she has no major weaknesses and so there is no counterplay. I am very excited to see how many things go wrong with the new marksman update. either they remove the bomb from her or her selfpeel or something. she has just too much.
but tbh it is not just the marksman role. other roles are also unbalanced. i mean compare syndra to veigar. or talon to zed etc.
They are just going to go the easy way out and buff all of the other adcs. (New items as well) I don't think they will remove the bombs but they might do a nerf to her damage. I don't think we will ever be at a point where all the roles are "Balanced" but we can get close to it. They really just need to Revert some unnecessary nerfs
Ex. The Sion nerfs that happened during the Tank meta. The meta is over and now nobody plays sion anymore. Revert the nerfs and he will be playable again.
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Eastrid1 votesI hate ADC but if i get stuck with it I go 
Bârd1 votesI don't always play adc,
but when I do
Erockandroll1 votesI think the problem is that ADC haven't been allowed to really do anything, except be the teams damage. Riot had hit Sivir and Ashe a number of times because they were being overused in the pro scene. Even if their only doing fair in the Early game.
Right now, the Pro scene seem to favor Kalista and Trist. And YoloQ seems to favor Hypercarrys.
But why on earth did Riot Chose to favor Hypercarrys over Early game Bullies? My only guess is that a champion who snowballs from the early game completely Nullifies any advantage that could happen from good team play. But I would imagine this would be slightly more a YoloQ problem since the laning phase tends to last a little longer in YoloQ.
Big Lincoln1 votesmost of them are hard to buff without making them overbearing
Erockandroll1 votes[{quoted}](name=Solomon Money,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3iscFyy8,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-10-12T14:19:39.429+0000)
most of them are hard to buff without making them overbearing
That's a consequence of a class who's only defense is Kite and fight. Assassins and Bust mages will basically kill them before they know what went wrong. And they can't out duel a Duelist, Tank, or Juggernaut, Assuming that they can't kite them. All because they build Glass cannon.
I wouldn't argue that ADC's are UP. They are just not self reliant. Which it turn doesn't make them fun to play.
Big Lincoln1 votesThe thing is that they have by far the highest potential damage as a role with crit, so they generally shouldn't be self reliant when they also have range
if you make them self reliant while having this damage in prolonged fights then they become too strong. it's why kogmaw needs a team built around him; he can't be allowed to save himself
Erockandroll1 votes[{quoted}](name=Solomon Money,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3iscFyy8,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2015-10-12T14:47:00.881+0000)
The thing is that they have by far the highest potential damage as a role with crit, so they generally shouldn't be self reliant when they also have range
if you make them self reliant while having this damage in prolonged fights then they become too strong. it's why kogmaw needs a team built around him; he can't be allowed to save himself
exactly. But they also tend to be the highest priority target. Which is part of the reason why people hate the role. Everyone is after them, and they really can't defend themselves.
Also Crit is kinda peculiar stat. Even if it doubles your DPS, it won't be that effective against High Health, High Armor targets. 2 0r 3 Armor items can cut their damage by over a half. (even if they have LW) But become bonkers against glass cannons. And back before Tanks and Juggernauts were a non factor. EVERYONE and their mother was complaining about crit chance.
But now it seems like ADC feel Obligated to purchase Tank shred. (Via BotRK) to actually deal with these high health targets. But if you invest in Tank Shred and your opponent invests in Crit. (because you team lacks a tank) You all of a sudden wined up being unable to duel the enemy ADC. Who will basically kill you in a second flat.
Gwellaouen1 votesI don't know. I just play what I want and for me the adc's champions I like are Lucian and Quinn with Tristana on occasions. Sometime, I know I should diverse it because the three are all: all in adc's. I have Ashe and Varus too as utility adc's but I do not use them a lot.
I am just saying: fuck the popular plays. I am playing what I like. ^^
P.S.: Sorry for mistakes in English.