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Why Ekko is tankier than most assassins while having CC, shield, Damage, Heal no cost

taleofsonata·Jun 9, 2015·4 votes·761 views

Maybe Lower his health early game to yasuo Level or Katarina Level and lower his base health regen.

HEALTH 580 (+80) ATTACK DAMAGE 59 (+3) HEALTH REGEN. 9 (+0.9) ATTACK SPEED [*] 0.644 (+3%) MANA 280 (+40) ARMOR 27 (+3) MANA REGEN. 6 (+0.8) MAGIC RES. 32.1 (+1.25) MELEE 125 MOV. SPEED 345

HEALTH 517.76 (+82) ATTACK DAMAGE 55.376 (+3.2) HEALTH REGEN. 6.51 (+0.9) ATTACK SPEED [*] 0.658 (+3.2%) NO RESOURCE ARMOR 24.712 (+3.4) MAGIC RES. 30 (+0) MELEE 175 MOV. SPEED 345

HEALTH 579.4 (+80) ATTACK DAMAGE 54.712 (+3.4) HEALTH REGEN. 7.09 (+0.65) ATTACK SPEED [*] 0.658 (+2.1%) ENERGY 200 ARMOR 26.88 (+3.5) ENERGY REGEN. 50 MAGIC RES. 32.1 (+1.25) MELEE 125 MOV. SPEED 345

HEALTH 510 (+83) ATTACK DAMAGE 58.376 (+3.2) HEALTH REGEN. 4.5 (+0.55) ATTACK SPEED [*] 0.658 (+2.74%) NO RESOURCE ARMOR 26.88 (+3.5) MAGIC RES. 32.1 (+1.25) MELEE 125 MOV. SPEED 345

HEALTH 558.48 (+86) ATTACK DAMAGE 58.04 (+3) HEALTH REGEN. 8.175 (+0.7) ATTACK SPEED [*] 0.658 (+3.1%) MANA 267.2 (+40) ARMOR 22.412 (+3.4) MANA REGEN. 6 (+0.8) MAGIC RES. 32.1 (+1.25) MELEE 175 MOV. SPEED 335

HEALTH 516 (+75) ATTACK DAMAGE 54.88 (+3.5) HEALTH REGEN. 7.42 (+0.55) ATTACK SPEED [*] 0.625 (+1.4%) MANA 334 (+50) ARMOR 21.88 (+3.5) MANA REGEN. 6 (+0.8) MAGIC RES. 30 (+0) RANGED 525 MOV. SPEED 335

HEALTH 514.4 (+80) ATTACK DAMAGE 53.04 (+3) HEALTH REGEN. 6.505 (+0.6) ATTACK SPEED [*] 0.668 (+2%) MANA 334 (+50) ARMOR 20.88 (+3.5) MANA REGEN. 6 (+0.8) MAGIC RES. 30 (+0) RANGED 550 MOV. SPEED 330

HEALTH 582.8 (+85) ATTACK DAMAGE 55.208 (+3.1) HEALTH REGEN. 8.51 (+0.75) ATTACK SPEED [*] 0.668 (+2.7%) MANA 327.2 (+40) ARMOR 26.88 (+3.5) MANA REGEN. 7.59 (+0.5) MAGIC RES. 32.1 (+1.25) MELEE 125 MOV. SPEED 350

HEALTH 587.8 (+85) ATTACK DAMAGE 58.376 (+3.2) HEALTH REGEN. 8.34 (+0.65) ATTACK SPEED [*] 0.694 (+3.1%) ENERGY 200 ARMOR 26.38 (+3.5) ENERGY REGEN. 50 MAGIC RES. 32.1 (+1.25) MELEE 125 MOV. SPEED 350

9 Comments

Sire HippingtonJun 9, 20153 votes

out off those, every melee got more armor, and most have same or more hp than ecco, only yasuo got less, but his passive shield makes more than up for that. Ecco might be as broken as the time he shattered, but his base tankiness really isn't the issue with him, it's actually his main weakness.

Champion SkinJun 9, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Don Pavoni,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3YQtZaZl,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-06-09T13:27:40.587+0000)

out off those, every melee got more armor, and most have same or more hp than ecco, only yasuo got less, but his passive shield makes more than up for that.

Only Yasuo got less? I am pretty sure Katarina and Fizz are melee? And they both have less base HP compared to Ekko (Katarina always has less HP then Ekko while Fizz gets more HP at level 4) oh and there is also Zed who apparently have 0.6 less HP then Ekko lol

Sire HippingtonJun 9, 20151 votes

Fizz reaches both more health and more armor than ecco I often enough forget kata is a melee, haveing no resources and low cd abillitys mkaes her quite save at farming, and her reseting E aswell as the 15% damage reduce on it make it much harder to pin her down in teamfights than ekko, it's more than appropiate for her to have less base tankiness zed got 0.6 hp less..wow, i'd even consider a 15 hp difference as roughly the same, and he got more armor.

ekko only is abit more tanky in the early levels, but those other assasins have either saver farminf in the early or higher damage potential.

again, i'm not saing he's not a bit overtuned right now, but his basetankiness really isn't the problem. The main problems are the potential of W and R on top of what already is a solid assasin.

Champion SkinJun 10, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Don Pavoni,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3YQtZaZl,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2015-06-09T15:12:21.841+0000)

Well yeah I don't think Ekko is all that OP though he is a really pain to deal with especially if you reply on skill shots as he has a dash and a blink in his E (and blinks are really strong for avoiding skill shots as you can just blink through/over the skill shot and get to your target while avoiding it) and he also has his ultimate

AyRe CoNteMpTJun 9, 20151 votes

maybe lower his everything and remove at least 12 from his 35 abilities

ArsamesJun 9, 20151 votes

Ahri is a mobility mage, Yasuo is a fighter, get a clue before making claims.

Ekko has heal, shield, AoE stun because he lacks burst damage and burst damage on demand.

taleofsonataJun 9, 20151 votes

Lack burst, Really?

ArsamesJun 10, 20151 votes

{quoted}

Lack burst, Really?

Yep, Ekko deals low burst damage, his only burst damage is his Ult and that can be avoided.

lightdragoon88Jun 9, 20151 votes

Ekko...tanky?

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