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Fiora and Aatrox's ults should be swapped

WutsKraken·6/26/2016, 9:44:51 PM·3 votes·587 views

I've brought this up before as have many others, but I'll do so again since so many have forgotten

Maybe a few numbers changed around, but thematically these make more sense, think about it:

Fiora is a selfish fencer who is more concerned with her personal skill and honor, her ult is about "inspiring" her team through her victory

Aatrox is a demon who appears to turn the tide of a battle when all hope seems lost and inspires everyone to push forward and win, his ult basically just causes him to go ham

Sure, you could argue how their ults fit them, but thematically: If Fiora's such a selfish fencer and duelist, then I think that as the "Grand Duelist" she should show off her incredible skill with a huge self buff and overwhelm her opponent At the same time, since Aatrox is there to bring hope to a lost battle, then HE should be the one to inspire his team to push forward, going ham could arguably inspire an army, but in-game, there's no team-wide supportive boost for him going ham. An ult like Fiora's AoE heal is perfect for him

EDIT: People seem to think I mean literally take the exact same ults and swap them, I said change around some things to make them work, ie have Aatrox be able to heal and Fiora self buff

8 Comments

V Khat6/26/2016, 9:48:10 PM2 votes

Reminds me of Kindred's and Taric's ult. As the reaper, they get to choose who lives and dies instead prevents everyone from dying. Taric has been given the task to protect everyone in Valoran, but instead only protects his allies.

Marshbouy6/26/2016, 9:49:20 PM1 votes

super duper uber true

67chrome6/26/2016, 10:23:26 PM1 votes

Fiora and Aatrox's ults should be swapped

Fiora's ult only really makes sense in context with her passive though, as both her R and Innate are tied pretty heavily to one-another. Fiora's ult is also pretty reliant on her repeat-cast Dash to be not the worst. Give it to Aatrox and you might have an Urgot issue where it's a cool ult, but doesn't work on the champion.

The entire point of Fiora's ult is also more of a "show don't tell" thing involving Fiora being a very skilled fencer, in a way the player actually gets to show they're a good fencer. It may not fit her backstory to a T, but it fits her overall aesthetic and weapon choice extremely well.

Selfish people and being inspirational also aren't mutually exclusive. A lot of selfish people are charismatic and seek all the attention in the world.

In Aatrox's case: again, fits his backstory reasonably well but it doesn't fit his aesthetic or weapon of choice at all.

Aatrox repeatedly bashing things over the head with his metallic pine-tree via an AS boost makes a lot of sense. Aatrox reveling in the primal savagery of performing caveman-tier tactics by bludgeoning things to death with little fineness makes a lot of sense in regards to Aatrox being a bloodthirsty demon that uses people and encourages them to show their dark side. Butterfly wings or no, Aatrox gracefully dancing around an opponent to strike them from 4 angles doesn't fit his overall aesthetic particularly well.

I don't really see how there ults should be swapped.

Statchecky6/26/2016, 10:43:49 PM1 votes

^ wut he said.

The OP is looking at themes to much and ignore the gameplay. Looking at the end result of Fiora procing her ult and ignoring that it is 4x her passive and how Q and W also proc it. Looking at the self buff that Aatrox ult gives and ignoring that it is an AOE magic blast aswell and the range boost unique to his sword.

CerealBoxOfDoom6/26/2016, 10:47:33 PM1 votes

this is a terrible idea and would make fiora AND ahtrox op beyond all belief

Maximum Zilean6/26/2016, 11:40:17 PM1 votes

The thing is, if you give that ultimate to Aatrox, he'd have 0 ways to reliably proc more then one mark. Since his only gap closing / mobility skill has a relatively high cooldown. He'd never proc more then one mark.

Weiner the Pooh6/27/2016, 1:13:29 AM1 votes

This just in, caring for your family makes you selfish, who would have thought. Seriously why does everyone think shes selfish? They have updated her lore you know.