Can we have champion updates slated for ones that actually need them?

TheVishual·Jul 31, 2015·1 votes·390 views

Like Evelynn again because you guys can't balance stealth for shit and she's either oppressive or non-existent...

or warwick because his entire kit is literally a walking auto-attack ult machine...

or vlad because his kit is binary as fuck and all you do in lane is spam Q or all-in with your combo.

Or nidalee because her kit is unhealthy as balls and is literally the epitome of mobility creep.

Maybe fizz because with his current build because you can get his E down to 5.8 second cooldown as an AD bruiser that murders everyone on the map

You know, champs that are actually played in the meta currently.

7 Comments

Sightless66Jul 31, 20152 votes

The champions being reworked see almost no play. They aren't fun, even for the people who should be enjoying their kits. They aren't having any impact on the game. That's not an acceptable situation. That's a problem that needs to be fixed. Game design isn't just about making sure that currently-used designs aren't annoying. It's also about making sure that whatever designs you are offering can actually compete fairly with other designs.

TheVishualJul 31, 20151 votes

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The champions being reworked see almost no play. They aren't fun, even for the people who should be enjoying their kits. They aren't having any impact on the game. That's not an acceptable situation. That's a problem that needs to be fixed. Game design isn't just about making sure that currently-used designs aren't annoying. It's also about making sure that whatever designs you are offering can actually compete fairly with other designs.

Just because you don't play them doesn't mean they don't see play and aren't good right now. For example I use garen and darius both in plat> and win consistently because I know how to build them and don't suck at league

They are fun to play for me

Sightless66Jul 31, 20151 votes

Skarner is the seventh least played champion in the game, and I know that there are a lot of previous Skarner mains who want to play the champion but don't because he's boring. People wanting to play a champion but avoiding doing so because the champion's kit doesn't work well is not a good thing. It's a problem. I've also seen a LOT of people expression frustration with both Garen and Darius. Even people who main them have shown a lot of anger at how their kits work, and they quit playing the champions because of kit. That kind of frustration is not an unsolvable problem.

I'm glad they're fun to play for you, but they aren't fun to play for a lot of people who would be enjoying them if their kits were better designed or stronger (but some of them can't be stronger because of their design). You aren't the only audience for these champions, and given how little some of them are played, I'd say you aren't representative of the audience these champions could have either.

junglerboy16Jul 31, 20151 votes

They rework champs when they have a good idea of how they're gonna fix them already set. They know that Eve, WW, Vlad, and Nid need attention, but they don't know how to fix it yet (and to be fair, Garen, Darius, and Morde need help, Skarner I'm not so sure about).

TheVishualJul 31, 20151 votes

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They rework champs when they have a good idea of how they're gonna fix them already set. They know that Eve, WW, Vlad, and Nid need attention, but they don't know how to fix it yet (and to be fair, Garen, Darius, and Morde need help, Skarner I'm not so sure about).

What's the difference between putting your dev team's brainpower towards the champs that are actually used and also need it? It's not like garen, darius, or morde's kits are incredibly unique or special; coming up for ideas for the champions I stated are exactly as difficult as the ones you stated.

Poor use of resources and decision-making in my opinion

ErockandrollJul 31, 20151 votes

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What's the difference between putting your dev team's brainpower towards the champs that are actually used and also need it? It's not like garen, darius, or morde's kits are incredibly unique or special; coming up for ideas for the champions I stated are exactly as difficult as the ones you stated.

Poor use of resources and decision-making in my opinion

Their goal is to have results. Start working on the almost viable champions first, and you get results quickly. And they shouldn't waist time on just brain storming, when they need to be actually working and implementing changes. And it's not like they don't even brainstorm, whether their busy or not. Those things just take time, and it shouldn't halt what work that they can do.

TheVishualJul 31, 20151 votes

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Their goal is to have results. Start working on the almost viable champions first, and you get results quickly. And they shouldn't waist time on just brain storming, when they need to be actually working and implementing changes. And it's not like they don't even brainstorm, whether their busy or not. Those things just take time, and it shouldn't halt what work that they can do.

The champions I listed are completely viable currently in the meta and played all the time (except eve now post recent nerf)... that's why I chose them; because their kits are not cohesive to healthy gameplay and are played alot

Garen, poppy, and darius see almost no play and don't affect the game and would actually take longer to bring into a healthy balance (as you can see with every complete overhaul of a champion because they are always broken first patch and then nerfed promptly after)

I don't think I see your point.