but kog'maw gets to be the one with the ass ult dmg. better fuckign fix your game, meddler. keep favoring certain champions and see what the fuck happens
edit: keep downvoting. the lot of u are either jhin fanboys or haven't ever played kog maw. fuck if i care
ScissorsNstuff6 votesWhy is jhin even being compared to kogmaw? jhin is nowhere near as busted
NodirjonSattarov2 voteskog'maw is busted???? where are you even getting this sort of information
ScissorsNstuff2 votesfrom the fact riot has tried for 6 years to to recalibrate only to have him dominate most metas he's strong in.
NodirjonSattarov1 votesand for 6 years all riot has done is provide incremental changes. they took away his update during the marksman update, removed viability in the midlane, and now disregards the oppressions of him being botlane. if for 6 years they struggle to balance him (becuase according to you he is flat out broken right now) why not give him a vgu? i know the answer as to why. 1.5% play rate, they dont give a shit.
ScissorsNstuff1 votesbecause everytime he gets updated he dominates the meta like I said.
He's busted even if not OP. He's broken, he is a bad design that cannot really be balanced well.
ScissorsNstuff1 votesbecause everytime he gets updated he dominates the meta like I said.
He's busted even if not OP. He's broken, he is a bad design that cannot really be balanced well.
NodirjonSattarov1 voteshe has only gotten 1 update tho? even if he dominates the meta is having a sub 4% play rate that problematic? that means out of 100 games that you play you'll only face him 4 times and is it that oppressive? lmao
ScissorsNstuff1 votesbecause he is a champ that demands organized team play and when he gets teamplay he outclasses many other champs.
playrate is not an indicator of balance or good design
LordGeovanni1 votessame with jhin except he does it with out organised team play too
ScissorsNstuff2 voteswhat tournament did jhin go undefeated in? Or did he 1v1 a tower ever?
Breaku3 votesAnd Kog still has a higher winrate so, nice jokes
NodirjonSattarov2 votesWHERE ARE YOU LOOKING????
http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend&roleSort=ADC
http://lolalytics.com/champion/KogMaw/ and http://lolalytics.com/champion/Jhin/ (1% difference in winrate 22% difference in play rate)
http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/jhin/adc and http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/kogmaw/adc (2.5% difference in winrate 19% difference in play rate)
http://na.op.gg/champion/kogmaw/statistics/adc and http://na.op.gg/champion/jhin/statistics/adc (same win rate 25% difference in play rate)
nice fucking joke
VoidStaresBack3 votesYou're comparing Jhin's ultimate that has a 90 second rank three cooldown and can be bodyblocked to Kog'Maw's ground-target skillshot ultimate that has a one second cooldown at rank three. Those two things aren't even remotely comparable beyond the fact that they both happen to do more damage the lower the target is.
NodirjonSattarov2 votesjhin has a guaranteed if he lands 4 shots which isn't that difficult unless you're a monkey and youre playing locked and zooomed in. best initiation, good scaling, a slow and incredible last shot dmg.
compared to a
high mana ult that scales terribly with the items AD kog'maw builds, on a 1 second cooldown but can only reasonably cast it 3 times before it becomes ineffecient that is supposedly used for poke but does negligible damage at high health and doesn't even execute at low health. don't make me laugh.
VoidStaresBack1 votesKog being in a bad spot gameplay wise and being a good candidate for a future VGU does not make the comparison any more accurate.
NodirjonSattarov1 votesaren't u supposed to compare champions to see which ones need an update? things don't get updates without reference points.
Incarceration2 votesI have to admit, even though Kog'Maw is pretty busted as AP, Jhin hasn't been weak at all since his release.
NodirjonSattarov1 votesTHANK YOU!!!! (though this is explicitly talking about AD kog)
Edge of Daybreak1 votesI really want kog to be okay but every time he is he just stands still and kills you while making no attempt to dodge. While having a dps bot is cool kogmaw just... ugh.
NodirjonSattarov1 votesyou're talking about kog pre 6.18. have you played him recently? he doesn't just stand still anymore wtf he has 3 skill shots and has to kite MORE than any adc due to his immobility.
Astôlfo1 votesI mean Jhin is an AD caster that plays like an AD mage.
And Kog'Maw nearly exclusively relies on killing people through his machine-gun speed autoattacks.
So of course Jhin would have stronger ability-style strengths than autoattack-style strengths. Sure, Jhin's fourth autoattack is powerful, but his autoattack system + reload time makes it a pseudo-ability in itself.
Kog'Maw could pretty much just have his W (or whichever that AS buff ability was) and melt through people whenever he's decent.
NodirjonSattarov2 voteskog'maw is an ad caster that plays like an ad mage.
kog'maw doesnt' have machine gun speed anymore. that was removed patch 6.18.
jhin has strong auto attack style strengths due to 4th shot. he get guaranteed crit and %health lol. his aa reload time is 2 seconds which he substitues with his Q in order to make up for the lack of time. he has a move speed buff, guaranteed crit, %health that help him trade. how does kog'maw trade? he doesn't.
like i said before, kog'maw doesn't have a AS steroid for 7 patches now. he doesn't melt through people anymore. maybe you should play him