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a full rune page of non-generic runes is valued at $21

LeMemeBoy··51 votes·1,879 views

costs 18k ip to 20k+ ip for a full rune page depending on what you're getting.

let's put a valuation on that based on RP prices for the 6300ip/975 rp champs.

140 rp=$1 at the valuation they give for the $10 rp purchase.

multiply 140 by 7, and you get 980( about the price of a new champ.)

new(er) champs cost about $7 for 6300 ip.

since you can't buy runes with RP, you have to value the runes based on IP prices.

6300x3= 18900(for runes other than ad, armor, and mr)

so that 18k rune page is valued at $21 dollars.

the 20k+ ones are valed anywhere between 23-28+ dollars.

the only way you can acquire this ip is through spending time on games.

"On average, a 37 minute win will earn approximately 100 IP, and a 37 minute loss will earn approximately 68 IP. Summoners just beginning their career on the Fields of Justice receive some extra IP and XP per game, but this fades as a summoner levels." quoted from riot.

thats 100+ wins needed just for one rune page. just depends if you're utilizing FWotD(first win of the day) to the maximum without ip boosts.

i get paid $14 an hour, but for some reason, IP gains are valued WAY fucking higher than my hourly pay grade.

riot, i understand you want to incentivize players to play this game more, this THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO DO IT. this just looks like shitty money grubbing tactics to squeeze as much playtime and money as you can out of your playerbase.

either increase the IP gains after games across the board substantially, or reduce the ip cost for runes, because i think it's fucking ridiculous that WE have to play this game for 4-5 hours just to get 500 IP without fwotd

edit; okay, message received, douchebags. you don't like when math is actually done, and shown for you. but you like when its just baseless whining saying "CUT RUNE COSTS BY 75% PLS"

21 Comments

LEBLANKKK TIME3 votes

Or if you have no time like I do working 70+ hours a week and having a kid; and you need IP so bad with little time claimed a bot match for wotd takes about 15 minutes which is 4500 IP a month for literally no time wasted; You could've got your wotd and been off the computer in the time it took you to make this post. If you play any more than wotd means you have ALOT more time than me and shouldn't even be complaining; I got 99 problems but IP cost of runes isnt't 1.

[slayer-jinx-catface]

LeMemeBoy7 votes

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Or if you have no time like I do working 70+ hours a week and having a kid; and you need IP so bad with little time claimed a bot match for wotd takes about 15 minutes which is 4500 IP a month for literally no time wasted; You could've got your wotd and been off the computer in the time it took you to make this post. If you play any more than wotd means you have ALOT more time than me and shouldn't even be complaining; I got 99 problems but IP cost of runes isnt't 1.

[slayer-jinx-catface]

"i dont have a problem with it, so therefore it must not be a problem"

sweet fucking logic dude.

you morons downvoting this are basically saying its okay for riot to rake you over the coals for your time and money.

there's a difference between being profitable, and being money-grubbers.

riot could cut all rune costs by 50% and still pretty damn close to just as profitable as before.

Mig894 votes

"you morons downvoting this are basically saying its okay for riot to rake you over the coals for your time and money." This statement is moronic. Riot is a game company.... Of course they want your time and money. Boo Hoo.... You have to play the game to unlock items to make your champ stronger..... Almost literally every game ever made Nothing in this game is p2w. People complaining in a free game about free stuff that takes time to unlock by simply playing.... ok

LeMemeBoy1 votes

{quoted}

"you morons downvoting this are basically saying its okay for riot to rake you over the coals for your time and money." This statement is moronic. Riot is a game company.... Of course they want your time and money. Boo Hoo.... You have to play the game to unlock items to make your champ stronger..... Almost literally every game ever made Nothing in this game is p2w. People complaining in a free game about free stuff that takes time to unlock by simply playing.... ok

there's a difference between a company going after your money and time, and a company demanding your money and a BUNCH of your time just to get ONE RUNE PAGE.

key word here is ONE. ONE.

i've been playing for 6 fucking years man. i have 2 accounts. one is my main, and then there's this one i'm levelling so i can help my friend out.

my friend is also fucking shocked at how much time it takes just to get a SLIGHT stat boost from runes. its baffling that you think this is ok.

im fine with having to spend time to earn shit. im not fine with having to spend 10+ hours just for ONE FUCKING RUNE PAGE.

Mig892 votes

So go with Level two runes for the time being. There isnt a HUGE stat difference.. Idk what exactly is bothering me with this post. I think it just ocmes off extremely whiny or something.

LeMemeBoy2 votes

{quoted}

So go with Level two runes for the time being. There isnt a HUGE stat difference.. Idk what exactly is bothering me with this post. I think it just ocmes off extremely whiny or something.

it's literally just simple math followed by a simple request to lower ip costs for runes or to increase ip gains.

if thats what you call whiny then you've got a problem

kamikazephyr2 votes

Your entire thread is condescending, do you even realize how smug you sound?

"because i think it's fucking ridiculous that WE have to play this game for 4-5 hours just to get 500 IP without fwotd edit; okay, message received, douchebags. you don't like when math is actually done, and shown for you. but you like when its just baseless whining saying "CUT RUNE COSTS BY 75% PLS""

"this just looks like shitty money grubbing tactics"

Danjeng3 votes

I don't like your post. Not because it uses statistics, or because I disagree with your points. In fact I do agree with you. But you insult us by calling us douchebags, and dissing Riot. How calling people names constructive?

Also, good job advertising your own posts. I came from here. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/W5ATEvjj-riots-boards-are-so-polarizing Your post has 7 upvotes at this time. You farming for them?

ShaolinToilet8 votes

"I don't like your post because I don't like you" I don't get it.

Danjeng2 votes

Why are you using quotes when I never wrote that?

Marshbouy2 votes

You literally sadi that you agree with the post but you still don't like it because he called people douchebags. Newflash, people are legitimately yelling at him, this

It's a free game that's NOT pay to win. They still are a for profit business. They make their money from RP. That said, they let all things that impact the game be earned through ip fairly. The grind makes it fun. If you disagree, don't play. No one's forcing you to buy runes.

Danjeng2 votes

I'm giving constructive criticism. Because the way he writes is condescending and treating the readers like idiots. No respect. Also he tries to get pity upvotes by saying how many people downvoted (there aren't any) and acting like the whole playerbase is out to get him. Even wrote another whole post about how stupid the boards is for not upvoting this post. Sort of like those people who say Unpopular Opinion, but then state a very agreed upon general opinion.

I don't hate this guy, I'm not trying to attack him. I don't even know who he/she is. You're making me out to be some sort of hate-filled person.

Newflash, people are legitimately yelling at him, this

Nobody is yelling at him. Tell me how that quote you listed is yelling at him. From what I can see, it's the OP yelling, not the commenter you quoted.

Marshbouy1 votes

If you automatically assume that you are the douchebag that the OP is talking about, i think thats a personal problem on your end. I can assure you that there are people downvoting this post.

Taking 30 seconds to scroll through this post will show you that there are a bunch of assholes insulting him.

420 grams1 votes

It's a free game that's NOT pay to win. They still are a for profit business. They make their money from RP. That said, they let all things that impact the game be earned through ip fairly. The grind makes it fun. If you disagree, don't play. No one's forcing you to buy runes.

LeMemeBoy1 votes

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It's a free game that's NOT pay to win. They still are a for profit business. They make their money from RP. That said, they let all things that impact the game be earned through ip fairly. The grind makes it fun. If you disagree, don't play. No one's forcing you to buy runes.

are you kidding me? you think its fun to have to grind up IP with either shitty t2, no runes, or cookie cutter basic runes that still cost 4k ip for months?

also really? if you disagree don't play?

you're the same guy who says "if you dislike anything wrong with our country than leave"

Kilanost1 votes

The revenue from ip boosts are probably a fraction of a percent of what they make on skins and new champs. Using profit as an argument as to why this persists is specious.

Kilanost1 votes

Honestly making people play games to buy runes really doesn't add anything to the game. I doubt anyone has ever said "I gotta farm some ip.". Nope. They say I wanna play some league and the ip follows.

Can anyone here think of a single good reason for riot to keep people buying runes instead of making them all available? You can't even say profit because in terms of total revenue, ip boosts are a fraction of a % of what they pull in.

Just make all the runes available for free. It makes good sense. Keeping them the way they are is a barrier to play which likely will lead to less enjoyment and therefore less people buying to for skins and champions.

Marshbouy1 votes

Finally. A very good math post. Runes are so expensive but they are required to have a good chance in ranked.

VeniVidiVictory1 votes

Be happy it's free. I've personally dumped (as of half an hour ago) $2,045 on it despite that (makes me wonder how much my account is worth with all the legacy skins. Hmm) It only took me a year to buy every rune available, whilst buying champs with IP as well, and I was both working AND in school. So it doesn't really take horribly long. This was also around s2-s3 so idk if that may effect it any, but come on lol

Spoofghoul1 votes

I fully agree

IP prices are too high for runes

with the runpage cost of 18000 with an average loss win of 50% and 100 IP for a win and 68 for a loss thats 223 games needed with an average gamelenght of 37 minutes you need to play for 138 hours to get 1 runepage

but lets go with that 223 games, some of us only get to play 10 games a week due to having a life, they expect us to play for like what 5 months to get a full runepage

. . .

DiskJ1 votes

And people say Lol isn't pay to win...

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