Can we please bring Vayne back in line with the other ADC's and True damage champions?

warpenguin555··7 votes·1,054 views

There are 5 main things that i have a problem with

1 Vayne needs to take little to no risk to apply it. Unlike Chogath Darius and Olaf who need to get right in your face to deal the true damage, and can be cced and forced away, Vayne can hide out in the back and blow you up. Yes she can still be cced, but as shes hanging in the back and can go invisible or dash away, she can dodge it very easily.

2 Vayne can excessively apply the true damage with no restrictions MasterYi and Irelia also have true damage on their autos, but they must be activated thus having a cooldown. And in MasterYi's case, he sacrifices the 10% bonus AD while his E is on CD. RekSai needs time to build up her fury before her bite can deal true damage, and then the skill goes on cooldown.

3 It does a stupid amount of damage no matter what you build With the rest, building health will help but not vs a Vayne because she will just hit you harder

4 Her true damage is unavoidable Ahri and Velkoz's true damage is avoidable, because they only get true damage from skill shots (Velkoz actually gets it from his passive but can only be applied by his 3 skillshot abilitys and 1 AOE DOT). You can step out of the way of the of true damage caused by these 2.

5 Vaynes true damage snowballs her very hard, making it nearly impossible to catch up to one that gets ahead. Both Twitch and Corki also have true damage on their auto attacks, however Twitch's true damage is very weak and is a DOT while Corki's true damage is basically reduced to nothing

My proposal Vayne: W Silver Bolts: Every third consecutive attack or ability against an enemy deals an additional 20/30/40/50/60 plus 4/5/6/7/8% of the enemy's maximum Health as true damage. If this ability is applied on the same target in the next 7 seconds, the target will take an additional 20/30/40/50/60 plus 4/5/6/7/8% of Vaynes bonus attack damage as Psychical damage.

Thoughts?

7 Comments

P4L2 votes

Im just tired of seeing a vayne completely recking everything almost every game.

EffectFX2 votes

Vayne is not just her %HP damage.

Also you forgot the vote option "Vayne is fine"

Kivolan1 votes

Volibear

Why does Voli get physical damage that he actually has to activate... Right up in the enemy's face, that then goes on a cooldown... While Vayne gets % health true damage every 3 attacks with no cooldown?

"Silver Bolts is the only ability in the game dealing true damage and scaling with the target's maximum health, making it the only ability in the game to completely ignore the target's tankiness."

This is a huge problem... And the answer isn't adding a similar mechanic to other champs like Fiora. They should do a flat amount of true damage only, or put the fucking passive on a cooldown so it can't be used on the same target more than once every 7-8 seconds.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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"Silver Bolts is the only ability in the game dealing true damage and scaling with the target's maximum health, making it the only ability in the game to completely ignore the target's tankiness."

well... yet. though fiora is really risky to pull off and far more restricted in dealing her true damage. it gets outright excessive with up to 80% max health true damge on a decent build on her ult. but at least shes in the same boat as darius. she has to be up in your face to get it and its pretty hard to actually trigger all 4 marks. and she only reaches values like this with 4 to 5 big ad items.

not sure why vayne still has hers, considering how easy it is for her to apply. they could just increase the flat true damage a bit, and remove the % value.

Mew Goes AD1 votes

You forgot an option: "No, the main problem with Vayne has nothing to do with her W."

Crowe Stalker1 votes

You forgot about removing the flat damage, why the hell is that even there? It basically makes her Silver Bolts more focused on killing Squishes than killing Tanks like it should be.

Also I vote to make her Silver Bolts first proc Physical damage, and then go into True Damage. This gives you time to counter her before she starts wrecking your face.

DorkunedAuras1 votes

There is one tank that can handle vayne's W: DrMundo. He has his ult up, and it doesn't matter how much damage vayne is doing, true or not, he's sustaining through that shit.

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