Why do people complain about Ekko's AP ratios when Tankko is the reason they're complaining?

Astôlfo··3 votes·251 views

Blah blah 80% AP ratio on passive Trash 10% on first pass on Q Meh 60% on return 2.2% per 100 AP on missing health 150% AP on shield Trash 20% on dash 130% AP damage on ult 6.6% of damage taken in last 4s healed per 100 AP

But. People are complaining about Tank Ekko. Regular Ekko (AP) has a ton of utility and potential damage, sure. But he's not going to live very long unless he plays very smart, because he won't have any safe way to drag them down and just beat them to death. (Typical Iceborn slow which lets him actually get close enough for dash/point blank Q/passive procs/etc). Without IBG. the Q is easy to dodge outside of point blank, it's easy to stay out of Ekko's E blink range if you know what it is, and he'll almost never land the stun on someone unless it's in the middle of a teamfight.

Tank Ekko doesn't even have AP until his 5th item (Scepter) which is a measly 70 AP - pretty much worthless - going off champion.GG (since people love to cite that). His own base AP (Does he even have that? I forget) is practically insignificant even if it exists.

So why do people complain about AP ratios when they're complaining about Tank Ekko? I just don't get it.

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AramsAreBest2 votes

Pretty sure you're mixing up ap ratios with ap base damage.

Astôlfo1 votes

People repeatedly mentioned, and I quote "AP ratios", hence my confusion.

xBushx1 votes

Because if Ekko HAD actual AP ratios you wouldnt build him tank. You would build him to ONE SHOT carry and Ult OUT. Like an actual assassin.

Astôlfo1 votes

But. Tank items are so incredibly strong right now and he has a good bit of CC, hence playing him as a tank/bruiser is the logical better idea than a glass-cannon squishy damage dealer.

xBushx2 votes

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But. Tank items are so incredibly strong right now and he has a good bit of CC, hence playing him as a tank/bruiser is the logical better idea than a glass-cannon squishy damage dealer.

Like I said though if he had ratios Tank Ekko would have never been a thing...

If the bases and ratios are tuned correctly he will be played Mid and mid only. As designed.

Astôlfo1 votes

If he has higher AP ratios, people would still play Tankko, with maybe just 1-2 more AP items (RoA/Rylai's maybe). Reducing bases would be what would help weaken Tankko. But probably one of the biggest helps would be just drastically fixing Sunfire and IBG and a few other tank/bruiser items that are far too good for what they cost at the moment.

xBushx1 votes

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If he has higher AP ratios, people would still play Tankko, with maybe just 1-2 more AP items (RoA/Rylai's maybe). Reducing bases would be what would help weaken Tankko. But probably one of the biggest helps would be just drastically fixing Sunfire and IBG and a few other tank/bruiser items that are far too good for what they cost at the moment.

I know that's why I said...

"If the bases and ratios are tuned correctly he will be played Mid and mid only."

Edit: I also agree with cost changes for the above two items they are just too efficient.

Astôlfo1 votes

You didn't mention bases in your original statement, which is why I replied as such :P

PDE5 Inhib1 votes

The amount of stupid in this post hurts me.

Astôlfo1 votes

The amount of irony hurts me.

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