That coward Garen(and more)

Mira Arya Enthe··5 votes·1,161 views

I mean come on. Why is this big Demacian warrior such a coward that he uses this powerful tool as a slow cleanse to retreat AND engage? It should only work when engaging! His W too.

Karma believes in balance and fairness she should only get the shield portion of her W when the shielded target is moving towards an enemy. It already grants movement speed for escape, what more do you need? Fucking damage mitigation? Worse still it scales with her primary damaging stat! And has a low CD especially when you rush 40-45% cdr.

Kled is all about all in why should he get the shield and skarl back on his ult if he uses it to escape? Wow balance Riot.

Wait you mean Ekko can throw his ball in his own oath as he retreats and get a shield scaling with his primary stat and a slow/stun on enemies who enter it? Not fair! Only when he goes all in he is an all in champion! He already has tools in his kit he doesn't deserve that kind of power while running away.

If Lee Sin's E is called Safeguard why does he get it when using his dash offensively? When he attacks an enemy he should lose his shield.

You mean Diana gets a shield that not only scales with her primary damage stat but ALSO deals tons of damage? That needs to be gutted immediately it does two things at the same time!

You mean Orianna gets a low cooldown shield that scales with her primary stat... AND IT CAN BE PUT ON ALLIES? Gut the scaling or remove it entirely, compensate base as needed.

So you are telling me Nautilus has a shield, that scales with HP which he stacks... but it also gives him splash damage, AND lasts 6 seconds if not destroyed?

Morgana should be enabling people to dive. Her shield is problematic because the CC prevention works while retreating. Isn't it bad enough ADCs are so mobile like Ezreal, Vayne, Lucian and Caitlyn net? Why do they need to be immune to CC while running away!?

Wait you are telling me Janna of all people has a low CD long lasting shield, that can be put on other people, AND gives them bonus AD? That is basically a miniture Riven/Vayne ult on a shield! It scales with her primary stat and specific masteries and items she uses? Wtf rito.

All these people with powerful shields that can do 2 or more things! Some can even place them on other allies! Some on very short cooldowns. And oddly enough they scale off the the stat that person would buy! Wtf Riot next you will tell me fighters need a tanking steroid in their kit especially if their base stats, regen and kit do not include any other sustain!

And don't get me started listing everything they have in their kit as some form of argument!

#/sarcasm Riven Incoming downvotes

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Ralanr4 votes

"How dare Sion run away!"

FOOL! DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE GREAT WISDOM OF RYZE?!

"I'm not running away. I'm running at you the long way around."

Educate yourself, you buffoon!

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

Pffff

Jbels4 votes

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"How dare Sion run away!"

FOOL! DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE GREAT WISDOM OF RYZE?!

"I'm not running away. I'm running at you the long way around."

Educate yourself, you buffoon!

No, Sion doesn't run, he kicks off the ground so hard that the world spins underneath him, bringing you closer to him and your death

Beldair2 votes

If not for that last part, I would've thought you were serious.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

Poe's law

Jbels2 votes

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If not for that last part, I would've thought you were serious.

He likes to pretend that sarcastically blasting champion kit design is clever

Ahristocats2 votes

when did i ever said, or someone on this board ever said that we should nerf riven shield when dashing backward a champion because of cowardness? this board is so hilarious No, we should nerf it because of balance, and because of how braindead riven's ability to control a fight between disengage and engage is making her overpowered and too safe.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

The 174 upvote post saying Riven(who plat+ has a 49% win rate and in bronze 45%. Definition not overpowered) should have her shield gutted when retreating was literally called "that one coward riven". The title here is a joke of that. The rest of the post is relevant.

Below mid-plat low-diamond Riven's don't even animation cancel correctly(something bronze players bitch about despite never experiencing it), which is the only relevant unfair thing about her design. But without it she wouldn't be viable Diamond+.

Ahristocats2 votes

Riven has 53% win rate above diamond, with 9k games played 55% win rate above master, with 1k games played

is right now the top tier toplane with jayce yasuo darius

her win rate drops to 49% because some people don't use colossus, with colossus her win rate is 53% which is the definition of overpowered

so yep, she makes toplane quite fun those days hue, but nothing wrong here

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

53% with colossus because the people using it are more a nich playstyle and happen to be succussful yes. Meanwhile the rest of the population drops her to 49%.

ACENOX1 votes

it's not a niche https://www.champion.gg/champion/Riven

it's the most used keystone on riven, as well as the best but there are still some people using something else since her win rate drops to 49%

colossus riven is disgusting atm

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

That is for that specific combination. It is important to know how charts and statistics work in this case.

Also that is a problem with CotC on all abusers. Not just Riven.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

Below mid-plat low-diamond Riven's don't even animation cancel correctly(something bronze players bitch about despite never experiencing it), which is the only relevant unfair thing about her design. But without it she wouldn't be viable Diamond+. Her win rate in B is 45%, S 45% G 47% Plat 48% Diamond 51% Challenger 57%. So when the boards get Diamond+ I will be impressed by Riven bitching. Otherwise they are using high tiers(who rarely complain about Riven) as justification for bitching about a champion who in their bracket is trash.

Also Riven's win rate is slightly inflated by the fact that other than BoxBox, people don't pick her into counters or first pick. They pick her when it is a champion they can snowball off. Because otherwise she is shite.

Korillo2 votes

Sion ults away. Yells "COWARRRRRRRRD"

AcidTheWarlock2 votes

When you be playin Urgot and you get ganked post-6 so you run towards their turret, ult their jungler and run

http://2.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/dev/39/74/7ff91de79a27490fe7acd2b0a66251c1.jpg

who said you only ult people into ganks?!

MLDzXnRRR2 votes

Get a life... [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

I have one. It includes LoL.

sheldonbunny1 votes

Yawn on the baiting. :P

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

Less baiting. More pointing out the poor quality arguments of "Gut it because I hate it" posts.

sheldonbunny1 votes

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Less baiting. More pointing out the poor quality arguments of "Gut it because I hate it" posts.

eh, semantics. /sarcasm concept has been around for over two decades now online. The concept was always shaky at best considering it depended on people reading until the end. Considering the length of your initial post it is pretty stereotypical baitworthy whether or not it that was your original intent.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

Fair enough. I don't mind hate on a champion. I hate the way people argue against them.

"He has no CDs. RESOURCELESS! Massive AD scalings despite being a tank, two tank steroids, 3 passives, huge damage with only two items, great base stats, a silence point and click, a point and click execute, a slow cleanse, huge AoE damage, armor shred, mixed damage and TRUE DAMAGE! Plus %HP!" Garen

Yey for lists of champion features.

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